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Old 08-25-2004, 03:57 AM   #19 (permalink)
onetime2
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Originally Posted by jb2000
As do corporations and individuals.



Value and efficiency don't come from cutting taxes. They come from electing and appointing responsible people to positions. Bush has demonstrated quite clearly how sheer incompetance plus huge tax cuts can equal skyrocketing spending.

Now obviously if one simply is opposed to any kind of taxes or government spending, then tax discussions aren't going to yield much. I don't know how you feel about the issue, but I find that down deep inside most people who harp on the government innefficiency point really are basically anti-tax, anti-government involvement, and use the innefficiency issue as merely a talking point. The simple point is that no matter how efficient or innefficient a program may be, it can never be efficient enough for them to support it.

Now, if you really are concerned about efficiency, which you term to be 'absolutely the issue', then I must ask a few questions of you:

1) How do you measure or quantify efficiency?

2) How do you determine whether or not something is 'efficient'?

3) Have you compared, using a relative yardstick (i.e. the same standards), government, corporate, and individual efficiency in solving a particular problem, or are you simply working off the premise that government is automatically least efficient because, afterall, it is government?
Your assesment of corporate versus government efficiency is pointless in this discussion. Corporations do not serve citizens they are designed to serve their owners.

You have a choice in whether to invest in a corporation you have no choice in paying taxes (well you can choose not to pay but then when you get caught you go to jail).

As far as quantifying efficiency while it would most certainly be a good exercise it is far from an exact science. As stated in my earlier posts, I have met virtually no one who believes the government is efficient at accounting for and spending the monies they receive. If you feel differently then please elaborate with examples why you believe it to be efficient as is.

In answer to your assertion that most people who feel the government is inefficient are anti tax, I say not true.

I am absolutely in favor of taxes. The government supplies a multitude of services that private companies or individuals could not. That being said, the government also has a history of continuing programs without justification, spending beyond their means, and sloppy accounting of receivables.
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