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Stompy · 08-24-2004, 06:00 PM

What's kinda funny is when you ask someone who believes in god if they believe there's a flying space creature hiding in the shadows Jupiter. They'll most likely answer no.

Why believe in god, but not the flying space creature? Can you disprove the flying space creature's existence?

The thing is, the human mind finds comfort in numbers. If millions of people worldwide suddenly believed in this flying space creature, then guess what would happen? People would start believing. It's all mental.

Proof of this can be found in scientology. This man, L. Ron Hubbard, takes a random story and convinces people it's true. Something about an intergalactic war on earth billions and billions of years ago, yadda yadda, psychologists are bad because it hurts your thetans, etc etc. I think that in itself proves how gullible people are. Can I prove that this intergalactic war didn't exist? No, but can you prove there isn't a flying space creature behind Jupiter? "Do you think I'm stupid for believing in the flying space creature? Well, I think you're stupid for believing in scientology!"

IMO, religion is the greatest illusion in the history of the universe. The more science matures, the more things are ruled out. For example, if a scientific theory is created or a discovery is made, the church will actually rationalize with scientists like, "OK, you can have that theory, we'll agree with you there, but we're sticking with THIS one." C'mon now..

All the reports over time about the euphoric feeling that people get as they die or come close to it... was often believed to be that of a heaven or god, but later found out to be the release of endorphins as your body begins to shut down. Those endorphins make you hallucinate. Of course you will see things like dead relatives, or have the feeling of floating.

Most people think of god as a creator.. but if anything, if I were to believe in a "god", I picture it more as the mere existence of energy and activity of the universe, which, to me, is alive. It's doing something. Stuff is going on. Galaxies are being created, black holes are devouring matter..

But then again, might be pure randomness and particle reaction. Who knows. The simple logical aspect of it all is there is no proof and there never will be.

08-24-2004, 06:00 PM	#56 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	What's kinda funny is when you ask someone who believes in god if they believe there's a flying space creature hiding in the shadows Jupiter. They'll most likely answer no. Why believe in god, but not the flying space creature? Can you disprove the flying space creature's existence? The thing is, the human mind finds comfort in numbers. If millions of people worldwide suddenly believed in this flying space creature, then guess what would happen? People would start believing. It's all mental. Proof of this can be found in scientology. This man, L. Ron Hubbard, takes a random story and convinces people it's true. Something about an intergalactic war on earth billions and billions of years ago, yadda yadda, psychologists are bad because it hurts your thetans, etc etc. I think that in itself proves how gullible people are. Can I prove that this intergalactic war didn't exist? No, but can you prove there isn't a flying space creature behind Jupiter? "Do you think I'm stupid for believing in the flying space creature? Well, I think you're stupid for believing in scientology!" IMO, religion is the greatest illusion in the history of the universe. The more science matures, the more things are ruled out. For example, if a scientific theory is created or a discovery is made, the church will actually rationalize with scientists like, "OK, you can have that theory, we'll agree with you there, but we're sticking with THIS one." C'mon now.. All the reports over time about the euphoric feeling that people get as they die or come close to it... was often believed to be that of a heaven or god, but later found out to be the release of endorphins as your body begins to shut down. Those endorphins make you hallucinate. Of course you will see things like dead relatives, or have the feeling of floating. Most people think of god as a creator.. but if anything, if I were to believe in a "god", I picture it more as the mere existence of energy and activity of the universe, which, to me, is alive. It's doing something. Stuff is going on. Galaxies are being created, black holes are devouring matter.. But then again, might be pure randomness and particle reaction. Who knows. The simple logical aspect of it all is there is no proof and there never will be. __________________ I love lamp.