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pan6467 · 08-24-2004, 11:53 AM

OneTime,

I respect your views but 1 I do take issue with and is most important to me (not just being a student but having teachers in my family) is Bush's plan for "training workers and students".

I'm sorry but ANY president that cuts education and makes it almost impossible for someone to go back to school in their 30's is not worth being president. Where is this money for his programs? Why are so many students dependant on loans, that don't cover f/t tuition and room and board (and we are talking PUBLIC schools). Why when my wife and I made less than $25,000 last year did I not even qualify for a Pell Grant, and my loans cover my tuition and 1/2 my books? I'm a f/t student with 5 classes and 17 credit hours I start at 10AM and go till 6PM, how am I going to find a job that can pay rent and my bills while I am trying to better my life.

If I cut down to 10 hours or p/t I lose my work study (which isn't much), and I lose out on loan monies. This is fair how? Not everyone is mature enough or able to handle college when they graduate, some of us have to go through life before we realize what are true calling is. (And sorry I also want to go F/T so I can graduate in 5 yrs with my Master's and not 10.)

Plus, the field I am choosing is a very poor field in terms of money and in terms of employment (meaning there are very few good people out there for the jobs needed, and the demand is high).

I'm sorry but if Bush wants to talk about "training and school" then show the money he's putting into the system, and how one can get it, cause I don't see it.

By the way for those who don't know, I am getting a Master's in Social Work w/ a specialty in Drug and Alcohol Addiction Counselling, and during my summer's being certified in Compulsive Gambling counselling. My goal is to open a recovery center for Compulsive Gamblers and cross addicted gamblers.

For those saying, "well when you graduated high school you should have taken college more seriously." First, my parents got NO financial aid and secondly, what's the difference between me using the money then and not knowing what I wanted or using it now, knowing what I want and going into a very understaffed field?

08-24-2004, 11:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	OneTime, I respect your views but 1 I do take issue with and is most important to me (not just being a student but having teachers in my family) is Bush's plan for "training workers and students". I'm sorry but ANY president that cuts education and makes it almost impossible for someone to go back to school in their 30's is not worth being president. Where is this money for his programs? Why are so many students dependant on loans, that don't cover f/t tuition and room and board (and we are talking PUBLIC schools). Why when my wife and I made less than $25,000 last year did I not even qualify for a Pell Grant, and my loans cover my tuition and 1/2 my books? I'm a f/t student with 5 classes and 17 credit hours I start at 10AM and go till 6PM, how am I going to find a job that can pay rent and my bills while I am trying to better my life. If I cut down to 10 hours or p/t I lose my work study (which isn't much), and I lose out on loan monies. This is fair how? Not everyone is mature enough or able to handle college when they graduate, some of us have to go through life before we realize what are true calling is. (And sorry I also want to go F/T so I can graduate in 5 yrs with my Master's and not 10.) Plus, the field I am choosing is a very poor field in terms of money and in terms of employment (meaning there are very few good people out there for the jobs needed, and the demand is high). I'm sorry but if Bush wants to talk about "training and school" then show the money he's putting into the system, and how one can get it, cause I don't see it. By the way for those who don't know, I am getting a Master's in Social Work w/ a specialty in Drug and Alcohol Addiction Counselling, and during my summer's being certified in Compulsive Gambling counselling. My goal is to open a recovery center for Compulsive Gamblers and cross addicted gamblers. For those saying, "well when you graduated high school you should have taken college more seriously." First, my parents got NO financial aid and secondly, what's the difference between me using the money then and not knowing what I wanted or using it now, knowing what I want and going into a very understaffed field? __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"