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Originally Posted by pan6467
PS: Onetime, I respect you man but to say that SBVT are not getting BIG money from a select group of donors while MoveON is.... is very partisan and accusatory, and IMO foolish. I read the statements on their website the vast majority sound pissed because of Kerry's anti-war speeches. Others have been shown to be downright liars, one has signed the affadavit, then said he didn't know what he was doing, then signed again changing his original story (O'Neill), selling books or as I said above making big bucks on TV shows as "spokesmen".
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As pointed out by others in this thread, some weight needs to be given to the shear number of "Swifties" coming out against Kerry. Certainly you can write off some as being questionable but not all of them. You want to attribute it to their anger over Kerry's stance when he got home? Fine, I'll buy that. But that's not the message coming out in the media. The Kerry campaign is painting them all as liars or puppets because they don't want Kerry's statments as head of his Veterans against the War group to become a focus.
As far as my comments about the Swift Boat group not receiving big money, I think you're misreading my position (or I have not stated it clearly). I am saying it's downright disgusting for people to come out and say the Swift Boat group is partisan because it's received big checks from Bush supporters while not making the same claims against the other 527s. The biggest single contributor to the Swift Boat group gave like $100k and he is (or was) by far the biggest single contributor. The other 527s have seen checks for millions from individual contributors yet their messages are not being charged with being biased by those on the Kerry side.
It's just another one of those hypocrisies that bug me. The Dems are claiming the Swifties are being used as attack dogs yet the other 527s have been used in that manner for a year or more but that's ok.
Until we start holding our own party up to the same standards we attempt to hold the "others" to the process will remain corrupt and partisan. The parties will continue to play off the fears of the partisans and we will never see any sort of focus on issues.