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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
james t. kirk - the democrats did in fact try to make political hay out of Bush's service but it ended up being a dead end. you're kidding yourself if you think Bush personally is making any sort of political statement about senator kerry's service. he has repeatedly stated that he honors and respects kerry's service in vietnam. this isn't debatable... it's a matter of public record. if the democrats are taking the high road (now) then they are taking the same road that Bush is.
Ralvek - that is speculation. it may be your personal opinion that every one of the hundreds of swiftvets who put their integrity on the line for their cause is an outright liar... but that is your interpretation of the issue and not fact. if it were as cut and dry as you seem to think it is... it wouldn't be worth having the discussion we are engaged in.
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Irate I love ya man (in a brotherly, cousin, cross country way), but come on.
Bush's fingerprints may not be on Swift but his people are (one just had to resign from his re-election committee). It's easy to say I respect you while I have my donors and henchmen find people with axes to grind and pay for them to be heard.
I don't believe all the Swiftvets are evil. I'm sure many are men who served very honorably and were hurt by Kerry's '71 testimony and therefore see this as a way to get back. The very few that are VOCAL have books to sell, are getting paid for their spots on news programs and/or have been shown to be liars or not have facts straight (as reports in the US Navy records show).
This BS that Kerry fudged on reports to make himself look better are BS also, first as shown in another post the ones on the day in question are signed not with his initials. Secondly, if he had filed a false report (and supposedly these Swiftboat commanders say they knew he falsified) then he ran the risk of being court martialed and at the very least reduced in rank. Those that say they knew he fudged and in one case got a bronze star, then they are just as guilty as he, if not moreso because they accepted awards on his "falsified reports". That in my eyes makes them worse in character than Kerry.