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soccerchamp76, the art historical and personal references I listed are the reasons I think the position I am taking is a worthwhile position to take in this discussion. I can live without the direct experience of objects if there is an overriding reason - in this case the overriding reasons are the ones I stated.
Trisk, thanks for stating your well-considered position. As you may know, I am not interested in debating things very much at all. I state my positions because I think they are relevant and are worth mentioning in a discussion such as this.
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