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Originally Posted by CoachAlan
So I'm agnostic. I think the existence of God is unlikely. And I think that if there is a God, it's largely futile for us to try to understand His nature.
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that's pretty much where i'm at.
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Originally Posted by Rekna
This is not a bait and switch, i'm mearly trying to provoke thought.
As many of you I used to be agnostic. I struggled with the idea of god a lot. Then through some occurences in my life i found faith and have found strength in that faith. I'm mearly trying to get you to think about the possiblity of the existance of a God. Not any particular god but that somewhere there is some being out there.
To me it seems strange that so many different cultures that never or rarely interacted all had/have very simalar belifes. The native americans believed and a great "Walken" (holy spirit), tribes throughout the world came up with beliefs of their own. They may all be different but they all have a lot of simalarities.
To me in the end there were to many coincidences within history, the world, and my life to discount his existance.
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you seem, to me, to be a little "preachy" for just being non-denominational. if you used to be agnostic, then you probably know how much the rest of us non-god'ers dislike people trying to convert us.
that being said, if you look at the cultures of the ancient western world, they all interacted a lot and share many of the same ideas and myths, just re-written. the idea of a god or spirit fathers being found in cultures all over the world (even the more remote ones) isn't all the odd either. at some point, people started questioning where we came from, how thigns work, and where we went when we died. at one point things like the sun and rivers were gods (ancient egypt), the gods had qualities of nature (zeus with his thunderbolts), or the "spirit fathers" took animal shapes (life giving food) (native americans). even floods show up in different cultures around the world, both sides of the oceans. but that doesn't mean the biblical flood was real. most ancient cultures started off in river valleys/basins which would flood every year, sometimes causing terrible damage. so it's not surprising that those would end up in the myths and collective memories of those cultures, which would evolve as time went on and the people and cultures adapted and grew.
so most things seem much more coincedental and circumstantial than anything. nothing really points to "god" for me.