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Originally Posted by Mikado
Sure I did. Everyone else does as well. Because someone who is poor, or chose a lower paying profession than I did then they get to pay a lower percentage of taxes to help fund those same institutions? Why do I pay more while they don't?
I do agree with alot of what pan6467 had to say. I do think it's a shame that we outsource jobs and transplant industries overseas. I'd like to see them comeback to our country as well. But what about those of us who create jobs and promote higher wages? I don't employ a large number of people, but I guarentee they are paid far more than standard wages. Again, I'm not a heartless bastard. Maybe my views in running a business are different than most, but I have been blessed over the years and realize I wouldn't be where am today if it weren't for some of the people working for me.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
there are lots of assistants and secretaries that make $30k to $70k... and not all of them have degrees.
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Originally Posted by Mikado
I'm sure there are, but you won't find many around here. Especially in the $70k range and without a college degree. She works 30 hours a week, gets to take a day of every other week, three weeks at Christmas, a week at Thanksgiving, plus I pay 100% of her family's health insurance. I'd say that's more than fair.
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I debated as to say anything about this, as I respect both posters immensely, and I seriously doubt Cyn meant this the way I took it.
Mikado seems to have very good intentions and whether I agree on his tax views or not it sounds like he is a very noble employer and one I should hope to work for or be.
However, it also seems that some people will never be satisfied. You say you pay someone x and you believe that to be very fair and it is, yet others argue that the x you pay is normal and you should pay more ..... so in this situation we see Mikado having to defend himself for IMHO treating his secretary very, very well.
I see as a serious problem and part of the schism between classes and philosophies.... an unwillingness to accept that one side maybe right in some situations, such as Mikado's pay and benefits and his views on overseas shipping of jobs.
There are some here, who are totally opposite and would think Mikado treats his staff too well.
My question is, why can we not accept the good someone does or the views that are quite reasonable while still disagreeing in other areas? It's not as simple as 1 side is always right and the other is always wrong. It shouldn't even be about taking sides or worrying about who is wrong or right.
It should be about listening to each other and realizing both want to better our country. That both have good points and beliefs. If we do that instead of being totally 1 sided and negative against the other side, we may actually find ways to better the country.Yes, there will be fundamental and philosophical differences but it doesn't mean the other side is completely wrong.
It means we need to figure out why there is such a gulf of difference in those areas and find compromise. I know right now the gulf and media fed hatreds are so deep that compromise looks like a weakness, but in all honesty compromise is the only way to move forward. We have 250+ million people and each person has a different view on what is "best" for the country, state and city. There is no way to appease each and every person. But by compromise and working with each other to move forward we can in fact build a better country together. Which is the very thing we (well most of us) truly desire.
Perhaps I am a dreamer and this is unrealistic. I know I often say the GOP and I mean the far right but by the way I type or say it others can see me grouping the whole into just the minority I meant. So, I need to learn, myself, to practice what I preach.
Again Cyn, if I misunderstood your post (which is highly possible) I appologize, I truly respect you and your views. I do nod my head in agreement with a lot of what you say.