Mikado,
The problem is we have eroded the manufacturing tax base. The very thing that made this country the greatest in history after WW2, we let leave our shores.
After WW2 we had manufacturing plants everywhere. They paid decent taxes (not high but decent), and their workers made decent livings. This afforded our country a great tax base and the ability to work toward a country where everyone would get a world class education and could be anything, and a middle class flourished.
However, as we watched those factories close and go overseas not only did we lose the taxes from industry, we lost the taxes from those who worked there and were paid well.
Unfortunately, now we are in a jam. What do we do to keep a needed middle class in this country? If we keep cutting education and programs that help advance the poor, we face no growing middle class. If we keep spending we need to tax those who can pay more.
I agree it is not right, BUT what are the options we face right now? The shrinking middle class and their shrinking paychecks can't afford to pay anymore. The increasing poor can't. It leaves the wealthy. And unfortunately, if trends continue we will have a barebone gov't, no public education, no advancement of classes, high poverty, serious crime growth and a much higher tax.
The ONLY way to diffuse this is to bring back factory jobs, liveable wages a man can feel proud to make and a tax on importation. However, the GOP and DEMS as a whole choose to ignore this because lobbyists are powerful.
It's not about trying to penalize the rich or whatever Limbaugh and the GOP feed you. It is about trying to maintain a growing middle class and industries to keep the burden totally off the rich. Because, in the end by cutting programs and losing the middle class the rich inevitably will keep paying more and more or the country will tailspin into serious chaos.
Again, you want fewer taxes on the rich, bring back the factories, liveable wages and import taxes and see how fast your tax rates will go down. Otherwise within 15 years be prepared to pay more or face a nation impoverished by it's own greed and stupidity.
Or we can keep bringing in illegals who pay no taxes but work cheap.
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Last edited by pan6467; 08-18-2004 at 09:47 AM..
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