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Old 08-18-2004, 08:10 AM   #36 (permalink)
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same problem with the statement "political chaos is a constant" as there is with "outsourcing has been around forever"--its not wrong, but it also doesnt let you think in specific terms. the political chaos of the present is complicated, but at the bottom of my understanding of it is the implosion of marxism as a cultural form.
I see your point but many economic laws function the same no matter where political chaos is coming from. "Implosion of marxism as a cultural form" doesn't exactly allow me to think in very specific terms. Are you willing to include in this trend what I see as the source of current political chaos: the rise of religious fundamentalism?
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as for the disembodiment of the production process, it is an important theme and is implicit at pretty much every step of what i wrote. if it isnt, i should think about being more clear when i write or maybe more alert for errors.
It was implicit, I just wanted to make explicit the connections between 16th century textile manufacturers and modern fast food employees, computer programmers, etc.
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the nationalist argument tends to come most from antiglobalization folk---it is really problematic and i take it to be an important index of the particular types of incoherence about in the present.....
You raise a point that I was trying to get at, how does one oppose outsourcing without resorting to nationalism? Is it possible to change the ways in which nation's economies interact without violating basic economic principles? It may seem defeatist, but I'm beginning to think that until we have a one-world government protectionist policies are the only way to combat outsourcing. I guess I would agree with Pan6467 on basic ways to approach this problem:

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I also believe our government needs to lay down the law and tell companies that want to go overseas or to Mexico or Canada, that they must pay the same wages as they do here and that they must abide by the same OSHA and EPA laws.

I hate the UN (mainly because they do very little to help countries but find fault in everything the US does), however I do believe the UN could establish a worldwide minimum wage, OSHA and EPA guidelines and any country that does not adhere to these would be faced with fines. I think the US and EU could make this work by not doing business with countries that refuse the minimum wage, OSHA and EPA rules.

Until we find a way to level the playing field this country is doomed. There is no free trade when we're allowing others to tax our exports into oblivion and we let imports come in almost free.
roachboy, do you see these policies as nationalist? Is there an exceptable level of nationalism?

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