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Old 08-09-2004, 11:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Originally posted by ARTelevision
Yes. I'm aware of the various "communes".
I used the term "nation state" deliberately.

I do hope others read the info you provided.
I don't see too many serious citizens gaining much confidence from the history of a movement such as that which has produced no stable and lasting nation state.

Thanks.
The first thing I'll note is that the links provided declare that the problems confronting such societies came from external forces, not due to internal contradictions or insurmountable issues.

You seemed to base your view that anarchy's lack of viability would be due to natural human tendencies--the anarchists' claims on the the linked sites claim otherwise.

Finally, I'll take the opportunity to respectfully point out to you that an anarchist nation-state can not exist by defintion because a nation-state is a political entity.

There are nations without States and States with multiple nations-but no nation-states can exist without political organization and bureaucracy. That is the "State" side of the hyphen that is contradictory to anarchist tenets.

The "nation" side of the hyphen hinges upon shared cultural meaning and history. Anarchists could never heed to a national boundary since that would be adhering to a higher authority than the individual actors in any given social interaction. Thus, the adherence to and belief in nationality is also contradictory to the anarchist belief system.

EDIT: I found this interesting:

Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution (1902) was written by Peter Kropotkin while in exile in England. Partly as a response to Social Darwinism, Kropotkin drew on his experiences in scientific expeditions during his time in Siberia to illustrate the phenomenon of cooperation in animal and human communities.

-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_...r_in_Evolution

Considering how much influence Darwin and evolution are said to have exerted on the Enlightenment, I'll have to read this book since it doesn't get much play.
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