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Old 08-09-2004, 10:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hal, fascinating. I'm still thinking on this and will get back.

Bill O'Rights I have no comparable idealistic view of human nature as you express. I just don't see us that way.

JumpinJesus, it's not black or white. The fact that leadership is flawed does not countermand its necessity. So we have the situation that it's a relative degree of "flaw" in relation to what would be optimum. I'm not looking for perfection, I'm looking for practicability and and an understanding that human freedom is an essential component of an enlightrened society.

I'd like to leave it there in an uncontentious state but I further posit that the only freedom available to humans is the illusion of freedom. An enlightened leadership creates conditions where the illusion of freedom is widespread.
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