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Originally posted by kutulu
What is just about telling someone what they can and cannot do with their body?
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We do that all the time. "The right to swing that hammer ends at my nose" and all that. And I for one believe that should apply to abortion as well.
But in the context of the discussion, I agree with you. As long as abortion is to be considered something legally permissible, the man should have no say in it. "The man doesn't have domain over the woman's body just because she's carrying a clump of cells with his DNA" and whatnot. However...
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As I said before, its a human life we are talking about, not a puppy. If you opt out, that kid grows up without a father. Take a look at all the fucked up people out there and ask yourself if some of them might be less fucked up if their father had taken an active role in their lives.
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Not good enough. Not good enough justification to acknowledge the reality that motherhood is not finalized with conception, while ignoring the reality that fatherhood is not finalized with concepton.
So the kid's life would be fucked up without a father? Well, then, the mother has an option. It's just a clump of cells afterall. She'll have the option of removing the responsibilities just like the man did.