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Old 08-06-2004, 04:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Originally posted by kutulu
Look that type of thinking may work ideally, but realistically we have a problem with kids being raised being raised without fathers. The first rule with sex is don't do it if you aren't prepared to face the consequences of your actions. If you are going to make adult decisions, you have to deal with the results like an adult. This is a kid's life you are dealing with, not a puppy. Real men don't run away and say "I don't want to deal with it."
And that was my point. Before sex the man and woman agree to abort if a pregnancy results. The man HAS prepared to deal with the results like an adult. If the woman then turns it around on him, saying she refuses to abort, why should he have to pay for it? If the man has absolutely no say in the decision (and as has been correctly pointed out - he doesn't, it's her body, not his) then he should not bear responsiblity for the results of the decision.

Now, if the woman says in advance that if she gets pregnant she's keeping it, and the man ignores that and has sex with her anyway, then he deserves what he gets. He's been given advance notice that they're keeping the kid, and he now has decision making power - namely, to have sex or not to have sex.

In the scenario I describe, the woman has yanked any possibility of decision making power away from the man.

Look at it another way. The man wants a new stereo. The woman does not. The man ignores her wishes and goes out and drops 2 grand on one anyway. Should the woman automatically be forced to give him $1,000?


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