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Bentley Little · 08-04-2004, 12:52 PM

Lurkette, you know I was only posing a hypothetical question and not advocating segregation. I wanted to elicit some responses and got some good feedback. And I agree, that if we segregate (by our own free will) then yes, we will eventually find smaller ways to segregate those groups. This has been proven scientifically. But in regards to sticking to a certain group for comforts sake is not inherently bad. It justifies having differences that ARE good and make us who we are, and seperates the cultures in a good way. For example, if everyone were 5'8", white, and named John or Mary, our planet would be a dull one. I don't think you intended this but that would be the other side of that coin.

I think labeling perpetuates segregation. And Thubpt, like the applications do. You are not white, black, whatever, and there isn't a spot for you. That means you are excluded and discriminated against in a way. The reason it is done is so that we can collect statistics to see how well the "minorities" are fairing in the workplace so that we can make more laws to make everything "equal". I put that in quotes because forcing one side to do something essentially causes a reaction to make it lop-sided. (More on that in another thread later).

Quote from Roofle, "I don't use labels for a couple reasons. I think people should be identified as a person first and then as a person of certain origin, not the other way around." There is a comedian (Carlos Mencia) who (is very non-pc, but at the same time, completely un-racist) has a joke that goes like this.

You get mugged and robbed on the street and so you go to the police station to file a report. The officer asked you to describe the person so you say, well, it was a person. What kind of person, well, he was people, ya know.

Obviously we have labels for a reason. Was the mugger white, Chinese, male, tall, fat? But I agree with what you are saying Roofles. Don't get me wrong.

Ironman, America is not a continent. North America and South America are continents, America (or the United States of America) is a country. And our country has been here long enough to have a distinct culture all its own and I think people should call themselves Americans, esp. if they were born here, speak English, go out for cheeseburgers at a fast food joint, etc.

08-04-2004, 12:52 PM	#34 (permalink)
Bentley Little Insane Location: In my head...	Lurkette, you know I was only posing a hypothetical question and not advocating segregation. I wanted to elicit some responses and got some good feedback. And I agree, that if we segregate (by our own free will) then yes, we will eventually find smaller ways to segregate those groups. This has been proven scientifically. But in regards to sticking to a certain group for comforts sake is not inherently bad. It justifies having differences that ARE good and make us who we are, and seperates the cultures in a good way. For example, if everyone were 5'8", white, and named John or Mary, our planet would be a dull one. I don't think you intended this but that would be the other side of that coin. I think labeling perpetuates segregation. And Thubpt, like the applications do. You are not white, black, whatever, and there isn't a spot for you. That means you are excluded and discriminated against in a way. The reason it is done is so that we can collect statistics to see how well the "minorities" are fairing in the workplace so that we can make more laws to make everything "equal". I put that in quotes because forcing one side to do something essentially causes a reaction to make it lop-sided. (More on that in another thread later). Quote from Roofle, "I don't use labels for a couple reasons. I think people should be identified as a person first and then as a person of certain origin, not the other way around." There is a comedian (Carlos Mencia) who (is very non-pc, but at the same time, completely un-racist) has a joke that goes like this. You get mugged and robbed on the street and so you go to the police station to file a report. The officer asked you to describe the person so you say, well, it was a person. What kind of person, well, he was people, ya know. Obviously we have labels for a reason. Was the mugger white, Chinese, male, tall, fat? But I agree with what you are saying Roofles. Don't get me wrong. Ironman, America is not a continent. North America and South America are continents, America (or the United States of America) is a country. And our country has been here long enough to have a distinct culture all its own and I think people should call themselves Americans, esp. if they were born here, speak English, go out for cheeseburgers at a fast food joint, etc. __________________ That is my 2 cents.