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Originally posted by cthulu23
Does the term "honeypot" mean anything to anyone here?
Anyway, I don't hate President Bush, but I disagree with him on about 80% of issues. Given that, my distaste for his policies is quite logical.
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I bet if you had to sit in on decision making meetings with him and his advisors you would agree with upwards of 80% of his decisions and if you didn't agree you'd see that his choices in matters of decision making are often the best possible with the tools he's given
Bush doesn't run this country he makes well informed decisions on whether or not others conclusions about an issues are sound or not.
None are cut and dry because we don't have a 100% majority in the government and we have to compromise to get the best of both worlds which means each world gets a little bit of shit too, and the world continues to turn.
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Originally posted by Bill O'Rights
Hmmm...I have a strong suspicion that this thread is just asking for trouble. Take note, people, that I'll be keeping a real close eye on it. That said, I don't hate GW, so much as I harbor a strong distrust. In fact, I don't think that it's the man himself that I distrust, so much as his administration.
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Try reading on the web and actual transcripts of documents bush signs there are plenty of legitimate unbiased news articles out there that you can use to formulate your opinion of a man and his counsels, but if you're basing your decision on the horrible bias of the New York Times, or the ridiculousness of Fox News... Then my friend ( and i do mean friend ) I can't respect your opinion as informed.
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Originally posted by Journeyman
I hate him because I don't believe him or anyone who claims that he sincerely believed that Iraq had WMD, was an imminent threat to the US, and that is why we had to go in. As soon as I end up with that point, I see the dead-American-soldier count closing in on 1,000, I don't even know the dead-Iraqi-civilian count, and I remind myself that this asshole got where he is by a state run by his brother and election results signed by the head of his campaign committee.
So fuck him.
But yeah, this thread isn't the best idea. Feels great to rant though.
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Oh come off your high horse. Sadam Hussein lost a war in which he was supposed to be removed from power, but wasn't. Big mistake admitted by all. Then UN weapons inspectors who were supposed to have free access to the country as a condition of their surrender found chemical weapons and testified that they believe the country is actively seeking more destructive WMD's
After these reports they weapons inspectors were kicked out of the country. 2 years later we get planes flown into our world trade centers and reports of terrorist cells in afgan and Iraq. Terrorists who if they had Weapons of Mass destruction would use them willingly on our country without hesitation if given the chance. It seems like a fair assumption to say Sadam had not disarmed himself as he didn't have a track record of complying with demands and was increasingly defiant to the American people.
So if you think that the idea of WMD's in Iraq was far fetched and Bush made it up so he could pull off the crusades you're rather ignorant on the subject at had than you liberal media.
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Originally posted by filtherton
I think that you're confusing conservative talking points with reality. Very few people actually hate bush. Hate does not come from rational thought . A large amount of people don't like bush for very persuasive reasons. Unfortunately, it is all to easy for certain people to, instead of directly confronting criticisms of bush, simply write off criticism as the hateful rantings of fringe lefties. It's is similar to the charges or "america hater" or "traitor" that frequently get levelled at anyone who dares question the current party line.
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Oh, and for the record Michael Moore is a big fatass bitch.
I don't know if you've seen his movies, but they should be striped of the title documentary
Here is an excellent website depicting how phony he is. Admitted by myself he's an excellent director as he paints a picture of something that seems and feels so real, but is completely false
Bowling for Columbine Short Comings
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
Farenheight 9/11 Short Comings
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=14054
Admittedly not as good of a source, but a good article that I recommend reading before seeing the movie so you can see it for just what is its.
I'm not sure what's happened to the democratic party as of late, but they seem to lack any sort of unity. I feel they've yet to pick up the pieces from the last election. And many respected democrats have been embracing clowns like Michael Moore, Ted Kennedy, and former democratic presidential candidacy leader Howard Dean.
I understand a lot of the reasons why, and I think Kerry and Edwards are a reasonably good ticket, but I just can't bring myself to vote for the democrats in such disarray.
I'm going to hope that through Bush's last 4 years he's gained the experience to lobby congress to make some of the changes that people who will be voting for the democratic ticket this year are looking for.