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roachboy · 07-29-2004, 01:36 PM

this motown exclusion seems arbitrary to me.
i understand the argument, but think you underestimate both how good the rhythm sections were and how important they have turned out to be. this is even more a problem if you think about stax recordings.

if you are going to apply those criteria to motown, then you probably need to delete war from your list as well.

and i do not have any idea how you would defend not including curtis mayfield.

and maybe there is an alternate universe in which journey, toto and edgar winter are more classic anything than james brown, but i do not know that construct and i am not sure i would want to be there.

blood sweat and tears was primarily about the horn charts and david clayton thomas's voice...devo was primiarily a synth band, if i remember...did supertramp even use guitars? i remember mostly fender rhodes and whiny vocals.

if the stooges are too punk, then what is the mc5 still doing on the list? on this, i am just a bit pained, personally. the stooges were among my favorites in the early 1970s--they explain singlehandedly why i thought punk was not a big deal.

why is the only blues player on this whole list a white guy? there would have been no 60s "classic rock" had it not been for the systemiatic plundering of the electric blues--howling wolf, albert king, muddy waters, t-bone walker etc etc etc....

no velvet underground? but you include the knack?

how is roger waters solo work classic anything at all?

you stick the beach boys and bo diddley on the same almost ran list as dreck like america and bread? have you listened to any of these bands?

WHERE IS CAPTAIN BEEFHEART?

geez.

07-29-2004, 01:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	this motown exclusion seems arbitrary to me. i understand the argument, but think you underestimate both how good the rhythm sections were and how important they have turned out to be. this is even more a problem if you think about stax recordings. if you are going to apply those criteria to motown, then you probably need to delete war from your list as well. and i do not have any idea how you would defend not including curtis mayfield. and maybe there is an alternate universe in which journey, toto and edgar winter are more classic anything than james brown, but i do not know that construct and i am not sure i would want to be there. blood sweat and tears was primarily about the horn charts and david clayton thomas's voice...devo was primiarily a synth band, if i remember...did supertramp even use guitars? i remember mostly fender rhodes and whiny vocals. if the stooges are too punk, then what is the mc5 still doing on the list? on this, i am just a bit pained, personally. the stooges were among my favorites in the early 1970s--they explain singlehandedly why i thought punk was not a big deal. why is the only blues player on this whole list a white guy? there would have been no 60s "classic rock" had it not been for the systemiatic plundering of the electric blues--howling wolf, albert king, muddy waters, t-bone walker etc etc etc.... no velvet underground? but you include the knack? how is roger waters solo work classic anything at all? you stick the beach boys and bo diddley on the same almost ran list as dreck like america and bread? have you listened to any of these bands? WHERE IS CAPTAIN BEEFHEART? geez. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 07-29-2004 at 01:39 PM..