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Old 07-28-2004, 11:08 PM   #55 (permalink)
sob
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I like your style, if not all of your substance. You present logical arguments.


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Originally posted by Nizzle
[B]Examples?
Sigh.. I'll bite.

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1. A proposed Constitutional Amendment to ban marriage between partners of the same sex.


I don't think anyone cares if homosexual couples have the same rights of inheritance, joint property ownership, etc. as everyone else. It's just offensive to Christians that the meaning of marriage is being hijacked.


And every other group sure seems to get what they want by being "offended."


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2. Only funding abstinence sex education instead of responsibility, despite clear and obvious conventional wisdom that this does not work -- anywhere in the world, nor here. Did we not learn anything from the AIDS proliferation in the 80s? Yes we did, in fact. I learned a great deal about how to keep myself protected from STDs and unwanted pregnancy. I honestly fear for a generation denied this information to satisfy a relatively small contingency of Evangelical Christians.


All well and good, but good works are not the province of our government, at least as envisioned by the founding fathers. If you disagree, then you have no basis for disagreeing with the war in Iraq. It's just another case of taking one group's money to do good for someone else.

I'll leave the Ashcroft arguments alone. That discussion would be too long.

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4. Re-election Campaign using Southern Baptist church organizations to promote Bush. This is heavily documented. It is also technically illegal and would result in the loss of tax-exempt status of these organizations if it were enforced.


So the AME churches didn't do anything for Clinton and the Dems?

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5. Bush's own assertion that God speaks through him, that his every decision is guided by Jesus. He cannot say 3 sentences without mentioning prayer, Jesus or faith in public. It's frankly disturbing to a non-Christian. I want someone who leads based on convictions of reason, logic, and compassion -- not instructions from an imaginary friend in the sky.


It beats getting instructions from drug-addict actors and Eleanor Roosevelt.



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6. Reactionary ban on stem-cell research, a stance only taken by fundamentalist Christians. Sets back the science of medicine in several important fields by great bounds.


I differ with your contention that only fundamentalist Christians think a human fetus is human.


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7. Heavy pressure to restrict a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. A ban on "partial birth abortion," an extremely rare and often critical procedure..


Another long discussion. I have no problem with a woman choosing what she does with her own body. It's what she does with the fetus's body that I object to. You honestly have no problem with a woman arranging to have an 8-month-old fetus's brains sucked out of its skull?


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8. FCC, headed by Bush appointee son of Colin Powell, imposing a three million dollar fine for using bad words or talking about sex on the air


I agree with you here. It's not hard to change the channel.

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9. Ashcroft. He counts twice. The man covered the statues of Justice that have been there for over 70 years because they had exposed breasts...


Hang him! I can see why you hate him so much, if he's going to commit such a grave offense. Maybe he should have just gotten a blow job in the oval office.

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There is a reason that the fundamentalist Christians are avid supporters of Bush. It has nothing to do with terrorism and tax cuts. Bush wears his religion on his sleeve and makes it unabashedly clear. If you are denying this you are either living in a hole or baiting. I am assuming the latter and am happy to oblige.


I'm doing neither. As long as he doesn't dictate religion to the rest of us, I have no problem with it. By the way, he's not nearly as forceful about his religion as the framers of the Constitution.
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