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I guess I need to just stay out of this thread because its obvious that some of you men (and I say men because if you read the thread I started in the ladies forum, most of us girls think the same way) are going to consider a m/f going out a date no matter what.
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If that is a response to me, then you totally missed my point. If you have a partner, you decide with that partner what a date is, and what that would look like with other people compared to just haning out. I see this whole issue as being really only important between those in relationships communicating with each other.
The problem isn't guys, it is having good guy friends... and the same with having friends in general. I've found that since I've entered a great relationship I don't want to waste my time on old "friendships" that didn't give me much more than a way to pass the time. The quality often isn't there...