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pan6467 · 07-24-2004, 12:28 AM

I'm going to say this one last time for people who believe their way of thinking is the only "right" way and anything else is Marxist commy drivel and those who hold those beliefs are ignorant and somehow less intelligent and beyond contempt to the "right" thinkers.

Any PERSON has the right in this country to speak their mind and say whatever they want about politics and politicians. IT IS THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

You don't have to agree with them, you don't have to like what they say, you can even point out and say they don't know what they are talking about, BUT YOU CANNOT EVER DEGRADE A PERSON FOR THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS, NOR THREATEN TAKE AWAY THEIR LIVELIHOOD.

The Dixie Chicks said what they said IN ENGLAND and CC decided to pull their records (not because of protests, but because of what they said) (although CC fueled protests by their actions and the DJ's) .

Whoopie said what she said in the presence of a DEMOCRATIC FUNDRAISER. She is paid big money for her comedy (like it or not). She has always been raunchy and outspoken on politics. At a DEMOCRATIC FUNDRAISER she did what she gets paid to do, and obviously being advertised as a speaker she was a drawing card.

Charleton Heston has every right to say "from my cold dead hand" all he wants.

If I don't like what they say then I turn them off. If I decide to boycott a company because their spokesperson said something I didn't agree with politically, I AM, IN THE SIMPLEST OF TERMS, PROMOTING CENSORSHIP.

It is not about who is right or who is wrong (that thinking only divides the country further and is suicidal to democracy and our bill of rights). IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO EXERCISE YOUR FREEDOMS.

In very simple terms, I DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE OR AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY BUT I HAVE PROVEN (BY HAVING TAKEN THE MILITARY OATH AND WORN THE UNIFORM AND SERVED MY TIME WITH HONOR AND RESPECT) THAT I WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT ANY POLITICAL IDEA YOU MAY HAVE.

EVERYONE HAS THAT RIGHT, AND WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES TO TAKE AWAY A PERSONS LIVLIHOOD FOR EXERCISING THAT RIGHT. CENSORSHIP TAKES MANY FORMS BUT IN THE END, NO MATTER WHAT FORM IT'S STILL CENSORSHIP, AND IT STILL IS A DENIAL OF A PERSON'S RIGHTS.

(sorry for the caps, but it is obvious some people do not fully understand freedom of speech and the rights we have.)

Also, I don't mean to flame but I am tired of some people getting away with calling liberals anything they want and talking down to us, and believing only they are free to say and do what they want.

07-24-2004, 12:28 AM	#63 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	I'm going to say this one last time for people who believe their way of thinking is the only "right" way and anything else is Marxist commy drivel and those who hold those beliefs are ignorant and somehow less intelligent and beyond contempt to the "right" thinkers. Any PERSON has the right in this country to speak their mind and say whatever they want about politics and politicians. IT IS THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. You don't have to agree with them, you don't have to like what they say, you can even point out and say they don't know what they are talking about, BUT YOU CANNOT EVER DEGRADE A PERSON FOR THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS, NOR THREATEN TAKE AWAY THEIR LIVELIHOOD. The Dixie Chicks said what they said IN ENGLAND and CC decided to pull their records (not because of protests, but because of what they said) (although CC fueled protests by their actions and the DJ's) . Whoopie said what she said in the presence of a DEMOCRATIC FUNDRAISER. She is paid big money for her comedy (like it or not). She has always been raunchy and outspoken on politics. At a DEMOCRATIC FUNDRAISER she did what she gets paid to do, and obviously being advertised as a speaker she was a drawing card. Charleton Heston has every right to say "from my cold dead hand" all he wants. If I don't like what they say then I turn them off. If I decide to boycott a company because their spokesperson said something I didn't agree with politically, I AM, IN THE SIMPLEST OF TERMS, PROMOTING CENSORSHIP. It is not about who is right or who is wrong (that thinking only divides the country further and is suicidal to democracy and our bill of rights). IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO EXERCISE YOUR FREEDOMS. In very simple terms, I DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE OR AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY BUT I HAVE PROVEN (BY HAVING TAKEN THE MILITARY OATH AND WORN THE UNIFORM AND SERVED MY TIME WITH HONOR AND RESPECT) THAT I WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT ANY POLITICAL IDEA YOU MAY HAVE. EVERYONE HAS THAT RIGHT, AND WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES TO TAKE AWAY A PERSONS LIVLIHOOD FOR EXERCISING THAT RIGHT. CENSORSHIP TAKES MANY FORMS BUT IN THE END, NO MATTER WHAT FORM IT'S STILL CENSORSHIP, AND IT STILL IS A DENIAL OF A PERSON'S RIGHTS. (sorry for the caps, but it is obvious some people do not fully understand freedom of speech and the rights we have.) Also, I don't mean to flame but I am tired of some people getting away with calling liberals anything they want and talking down to us, and believing only they are free to say and do what they want. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"