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Old 07-16-2004, 05:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Two issues here - I don't think that people decide their votes because of celebs, but because the public watches them so closely, their statements are free, unregulated advertising.

Secondly, Slimfast didn't just hire Whoopi. In fact, they didn't hire her at all. They hired her image because they want to associate their product with that image. If she didn't have her image (which I see as a savvy, witty, urban woman who is pretty intelligent) she'd be just another Jane off the street and Slimfast wouldn't hire her as a spokeswoman. Accordingly, when her image, whether during an "official" ad or not, departs from what the company wants to portray I can't blame them for dismissing her. I'd say the same thing if she made an anti-Kerry joke that they felt was inappropriate.

I understand what you are saying but, to say because a celeb has more exposure that what they say is free advertisement, they need to watch what they say is ridiculous. They are entitled to thier opinion, we just don't have to listen to it.

As for Whoopie's image, yes what you said is part of her image, but so is being very outspoken in regards to liberal politics.

My opinion she can say whatever she wants in a non commercial, it is not going to affect my view of the product. And if it were then I obviously have problems deeper than having a celeb tell me what to buy or think.

As for boycotts, seems a bunch of you want to reem me for my opinion that they are meaningless and more of a control thing than anything.

I know that there are boycotts or just the mere threat of one that some businesses will just cave in. I, personally, just think that a vast majority of boycotts are to get what a small vocal minority wants and shows disregard for the majority.

My opinion is if you boycott because a spokesperson for that company said something while in their "personal" time or totally unrelated to the product, your boycott is about what you want and control. Your boycott to me holds no merit.

Now, you boycott a tunafish company because they kill dolphins in the nets then that's a legitimate boycott, because you are boycotting a company for it's business practices and not for the opinion of an employee.

To boycott a business for business practices is a way to change things and is in most cases very productive.

However, IMO, to boycott a company for the spokesperson or what they say (when they are not selling the product at the time) is ridiculous and you are boycotting solely because you don't like what someone said, which then IMO becomes about control and not about business practices.

If Whoopie had been seen out and eating a Weight Watchers dinner then maybe I could understand SlimFast being upset and firing her. (Because in public she is using the competitors brand and that would be bad publicity and business.) But because she spoke out on politics (at a political fundraiser, not televised) and she is and has always been political and told off color jokes about politics it's a crime... to me it's pathetic.

There are opinions here I dislike, but you will never see me tell someone not to post and express themselves (unless they attack another poster maliciously, but attacking a public/political figure is all part of free speech). You cannot have a free speech in society if you limit when or where any certain person can speak.

It is also very telling that the people who laughed whenever a public figure ripped on Clinton and took very personal shots at him are now the ones so enraged about what Whoopie said.

It's ok for one side but not the other. It's like when people were ready to roast Clinton and kick him out of office and so on, yet when Gingrich did the exact same thing those same people said nothing about that.

IMO, if you attack Whoopie then you have to attack and say the same things about a celeb that made Clinton jokes or makes Kerry jokes. Plain and simple.
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