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Old 07-13-2004, 09:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
MooseMan3000
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More importantly:

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Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
When the majority of people in jail haven't been convicted of a crime, and the majority of those that HAVE were only convicted of minor crimes, how can you justify that sort of treatment?

Do you tie your kids up and leave them outside when it's 120 degrees out when they break something?


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Originally posted by KMA-628
Maybe something like this will keep inmates from being institutionalized.

Make them beg to get out and maybe the number of repeat customers will drop.
Or maybe it will make them resent the system even more and strive only to disobey it. When they are merely punished, not helped to change, how CAN they change?

TFPers especially should know how difficult it is to change one's self. Think about how hard it is to change your image with friends or family. Then imagine if, instead of your comfortable, middle class upbringing, you lived your entire life below the poverty line, where the only people who lived comfortably were the drug dealers and pimps. And nobody ever showed you that there was another way. Then you get punished for doing the only thing you know. What are you going to do? Kill yourself?


To listen to replies like "they deserve it" or "it fits the crimes" frankly sickens me. Imagine your child or husband or wife or significant other or grandmother got accused of a crime and was in the jail awaiting his or her trial. You might feel a little differently about it then.


TFP is one of the places that I look to find reasonable, caring people. This thread makes me wonder.
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