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Man, I've typed this a lot it seems so those of you who know just keep on ascrolling!
We met at 14, dated seriously by 16, knew we would marry each other after dating 3mo's or so. 9 years later we got married and we've been married 3 yrs now.
To me it's strange that people are surprised by marriage proposals. I think it's something you should both discuss and venture into together. Neither of us "popped the question" and I can't even remember who brought it up first. I think we both just knew it would happen.
I guess it's tradition though and if you feel very strongly about getting married you should go ahead and ask her. At least it will open up the dialogue and you guys can take your time about the actual ceremony part. Be engaged for a while and all that.
Oh, and I am a big advocate of living together as well. We lived together for 2 years, bought a house and cars together, got our dogs together... THEN we got married. By then, we felt it was a formality, but one I wanted nonetheless.
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Thought for the day: Men are like fine wine. They start out as grapes, and it's up to the women to stomp the crap out of them until they turn into something acceptable to have dinner with.
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