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Originally posted by KMA-628
[B]o.k., the facts stated by the article appear to be accurate. They agree with the Census bureau.
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i admire your fact checking and your ability to admit that a source that you origonally saw as scewed really did have accurate info.
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Originally posted by KMA-628
4. Almost 20% of people making between $25,000 and $49,999 per year do not have insurance. I made less than $25,000 when I was 19 but still was able to afford health insurance. This income level should be able to afford health insurance. I did it for many, many years and that was with a wife, kids, dog, etc, etc.
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I don't think this is true. health insurance is very expensive and has jumped immensely in the last few years "By 2006 the average family health insurance premium will exceed $14,500; premium costs will have increased by more than $5,000 in just three years." (
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml) -- considering how high the cost of living can also be now along with the fact that health insurance rarely covers all expenses any more (for instances i had to pay $100 for my scheduled doctors appointment last month because the insurance company decided that my doctor charges too much, never mind that for the area i live in the fee is completely average) and the cost of health care quickly become prohibitive. it's also, unfortunately, not a cost that 20 year old kids are often able to see as worth the large amount of money -- i suppose once could argue that this is their choice, but considering the consequences should something awful happen i'm not comfortable with allowing such a practice to continue (ie saddling people with sub par health care and/or extreme debt is not ok with me regardless of their sometimes poor decision making skills).
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Originally posted by KMA-628
5. Education was the biggest split. 28% of those not insured did not even have a high school diploma. The percent uninsured dropped 30% for people that just had a high school diploma. (a diploma really isn't a major achievement in this day and age). The number dropped another whopping 65% if they graduated college.
While the percentage sure looks interesting, the info behind the facts tells a whole lot more.
Should I, as a tax paying citizen, pay for the healthcare of a non-taxpaying non-citizen? I don't believe so. And I am pretty certain, if I were to go to their country that I wouldn't receive any handouts. Just remove this portion of the equation and the "percent uninsured" drops significantly.
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i'm not sure why you're assuming that these people are not paying taxes -- they are most likely not paying as much as you but the're paying something.
i still don't see you providing any suggestion to solve this problem (nor any evidence that it is not a problem). No one wants to pay more taxes, but i don't think any of us want a health care crisis either. I'm not trying to just pull at people's hearth strings with my arguments (see my entire post devoted to how universal health care would help all of society not just those who are uninsured now). i honestly believe that everyone would be better off under a state sponsored program that provides basic health care. under such a program businesses would stand to save money, malpractice suits would decrease, the health care system could become more streamlined and more accessible to all and no one would have to risk their lives and their financial security because they can't afford health care.
I also think that a health care program could be developed that would not be cost prohibitive. in the same way that insurance companies get a break on certain perscriptions and health care needs because the represent a large group of people (ie buying in bulk) the federal government could also save vast sums of money. also, when viewed on a societal scale personal debt contributes to government debt. when individuals are saddled with enormous bills they cannot contribute financially to society.