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Old 07-12-2004, 07:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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one more note, on machiavelli--there is an irony here that i remembered while checking the post above for spelling mistakes--according to machiavelli, it is the people who might actually believe that the existing order is moral--the people must be manipulated. what matters is the appearance of morality, or consistency.
it would follow then that using the language of morality with reference to politics is a kind of demonstration of having been manipulated.
to argue on that basis is then a kind of intellectual self-delegitimation----a kind of self-immolation.

something to think about.
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