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Old 07-11-2004, 11:41 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Originally posted by roachboy
regarding the comments about concerning france and germany, and particularly the post by seretogis.

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and gee, given what has been coming out over the past weeks--far too long after the fact--it turns out that american intelligance was at best "flawed"--maybe france and germany and russia and the others who did not support bushwar were right.
France, Germany, and Russia are subject to corruption and selfish motivations too you know, not just the US. They are not the liberal Utopia that some leftists dream of at night. How about that?

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Originally posted by roachboy
of course, this kind of problem did not stop the heritage foundation.
and i expect nothing better from them than the kind of pseudo-documentary drivel posted above.

after all, this "thinktank" was a big part of the support system that legitimated the "wolfowitz doctrine", and a major source of what at best could be described as disinformation to support that kind of "thinking"....

if you do any research about the circulation of the ideological framework that underpins bushwar, much of it passes through heritage.

and if you look at the campaign of vacant bullshit that flowed to justify bushwar by trying to shift the argument away from what actually happened onto arbitrarily selected information about financial involvements with iraq only running in convenient directions, and never, ever talking about the complete story, you could always count on heritage being a source.

it is not surprising that the poster did not mention heritage in the body of the post.
First, I am deeply saddened that you dislike the Heritage Foundation and don't consider it a valuable source. Really. However, as I posted, each point has a footnote which leads to another source entirely -- Heritage merely compiled a list of facts from many different sources. Perhaps you would like to take a shot at attacking the facts instead of merely weaving your own "campaign of vacant bullshit that flowed to justiify" your point of view.

Secondly, I really appreciate your suggestion (and veiled insult) that I tried to hide the source simply because I didn't mention it in the body of my post. I always provide links and have no reason not to -- I'm right. The facts are there, why run around them and make blanket generalizations about the messenger unless you simply aren't prepared to deal with the truth?

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Originally posted by roachboy
if you are going to try to prove a point, use a serious information source.

the heritage foundation is a joke.
If you're going to try to prove a point, use any source, at all. As "without merit" as you seem to find this, you had absolutely no response to it other than a personal attack on my character and Heritage's credibility which is meaningless since it was a compilation of information from other sources. Congratulations on lowering the standard for posts on this board.
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