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Old 07-10-2004, 02:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Also I'm fairly certain this issue is black and white
In most parts of Sudan is peace, the fighting is concentrated in the south part of the nation (the Darfur area). In this area a civil war is goin on between the arabic and african groups.
USAID claims that the famine will cause 100.000 deaths, the german goverment even estimates 350.000 are in danger.

The violence has increaded, reports claim that ~30.000 people have died in violent raids. Mostly the Janjawid militia (arabic) are blamed for this (reuters). Therefore most people who are in favor of an invention are already talking about "ethinical cleasing". One of the leader of the rebels even said that "this is our Srebrenica". This guy surely learned his "buzzwords" to trigger the intervention-reflex.

But most human rights groups claim that the situation is not that clear. Hans-Joachim Preuß, spokesman of the german "welthungerhilfe" (german oxfarm) declined that the Janjawid militia are responsible alone (although he calls them "monsters"). He says that the violence comes from all groups in this conflict "the Janjawid militia, criminals, too many unemployed with too many guns, regular troops and most certainly also the rebels".

It is undisputed that the rebels startet the conflict, the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) and Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) revolted in march 2003. Exactly when the peace negotiations stagnated. With this revolt the rebels, who are cooperating with the SLA, wanted to force the goverment to fullfill their requirements.

The miserable situation (food and medicine)in the southern region is not a fault of the goverment but also of the SLA and JEM who refused any help.
Also undisputed is the fact that the JEM is supported by Hassan al-Turabi, who offered Osama bin Laden shelter in the early 90. The current goverment disempowered Turabi in 1999. Turabi now hopes for his comeback with help of the JEM.

It is true that Sudan was a quite fundamentalist state, but this has slowly changed in the laste years (see disempowerment of Turabi). Conflicts in Sudan are quite common, since 1983 some 1.5 mio people died, those conflicts were mostly fueld by western Oil industries (Yes, Sudan has Oil) who mostly supported the Rebels.

(roughly translated from a german article http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/co/17826/1.html)

Now, tell me who is the good guy? which group do you want to support? Who is black and who is white?
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