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Old 07-06-2004, 09:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
onetime2
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Originally posted by Superbelt
Sorry but it really does seem like that. The comments you made are a damned if she does damned if she doesn't type of statement. Hillary promised the people of New York that she would fulfill her first term. But many on the Republican side don't seem to be able to believe her. Even when she is finally free of her VP speculation some still have to spin the event towards being her malevolence.

Clintons control the center/right DLC, not DNC. And the DLC has been deflated considerably. The New Democratic Network (quite a bit more liberal) is quickly stealing much of it's thunder.
The Clinton's themselves command a leadership role in large part because of their successes as politicians and for their fundraising network. But they are now two cycles out of Presidential power. That plus the primary did a great deal to decentralize the structure of the party. Especially with Dean's rediscovery of the strength of small donors and his alliance with Gore.

The Democrats are not the puppet party you think it is. The Clintons will always be Stars. But they are not the Democrats dictators.
Hey SB, it's been a while but something else that we agree on (at least very nearly). Hillary not fulfilling that promise wouldn't have really hurt her. She could easily have made the argument that she needs to do this for the sake of the country and all that. Her core would have supported her completely and most of the rest of her supporters would have followed suit.

I would not be surprised if that last little floater in the press about Hillary being considered for VP wasn't her own people's doing to keep her name out there.

The DNC was only being "controlled" by the Clintons in his second run. That first one was almost entirely out of the DNC's control, IMO. They did a hell of a job creating their own political infrastructure.

I don't think the swing you speak of within the DNC will hurt Hillary's standing though. It's kind of a forgone conclusion that she will be back either in the next race or the one after that (depending on who wins this year). She's not out for VP she's only out for Pres. No matter the state of the DNC they've proven they can circumvent the party controls to promote themselves and (unless the problems with a number of their core fundraising people really limit their network, which I don't think will happen) they can more than likely do it again.

It will be interesting to see however it shakes out.
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