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Old 07-04-2004, 03:17 AM   #62 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally posted by analog
I feel like i'm taking crazy pills.

I didn't say anyone - especially not anyone in particular - was ignorant.



btw- it IS a rule that if you're going to directly quote something, don't just link to it, but copy and paste into the post. Some people don't like blindly clicking links...

After sifting through links that didn't actually point to anything but the index, and finding all the info myself, I find nothing that says at all what you claim it does.

From your "block parties" section:

923.01 Definitions.


923.02 Parades.


Note the highlight, i'll come back to it.

923.99 Violations--Penalties.


Note that there is no penalty for firearms, and in no way in any of the sections i've posted (or didn't post because they were about block parties) does it even reference firearms.

Now, back to...

No problem. We'll check out Chapter 2111.

Chapter 2111 PARADES, PROCESSIONS AND OTHER MOVING ASSEMBLAGES The caps is on the site.

Forgoing the others because they aren't worth reposting, but i'll link to them in a moment, i'll put up the

2111.05 Standards for issuance of permit.


Nope. No mention of firearms or anything even related to them.

You can check out these others if you feel the need, they are formality and also have no mention of anything firearm-related:

Application for permit
Traffic Control
Division of fire personnel - This has to do with staffing appropriate fire department response, should it be needed.
Notice of rejection of application for permit
Appeal procedure
Nonwaiverability
Penalty

I used your links, I went to where you sent me. There is nothing that even remotely mentions guns. I also searched the site using it's search function and found no correlation of "gun", "firearm", or even "weapon" and "parade" or "block party", which you also mentioned.

Maybe i'm missing something? If I am wrong, please remove my ignorance of this matter.

EDIT: NOTE- Just for the purpose of chronology, I started writing my post way before peetster responded in here, that is why mine is after his... it took THAT LONG to compile all of this.

The links I provided were explained in the post.

The booklet that is not available online (so I linked how to get it) that explains all the fees and what hoops Stonewall had to go through.

The second I stated was to show the definition of a parade as a block party.

The third which I corrected is to show how, when having a public event (lawful meeting) the PP's could be charged with criminal trespess, as PP was asked not to come and make a statement and they did it violates "2317.12 Disturbing a lawful meeting.
(A) No person, with purpose to prevent or disrupt a lawful meeting, procession, or gathering, shall do either of the following:
(1) Do any act which obstructs or interferes with the due conduct of such meeting, procession, or gathering;
(2) Make any utterance, gesture, or display which outrages the sensibilities of the group.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of disturbing a lawful meeting, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. (ORC 2917.12; Ord. 2535-94.)
#2.

By them being asked NOT to come and make a statement, that meant they made "any utterance, gesture, or display which outrages the sensibilities of the group" when the did appear, which is illegal and an infringement upon the rights of Stonewall.

I did not say that any of those links had to do with guns specifically, again, Because of Kent State in 1970 I believe in Ohio there is a law preventing guns at a demonstration, parade or gathering unless registered. I am researching and as I posted I will admit if I am wrong or I will post the law I am thinking of that supports my claim. (Again thatlaw may have also been repealed and since I am basically neutral on guns I didn't pay attention. But even then I will post any finding.
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