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Old 07-04-2004, 02:53 AM   #60 (permalink)
pan6467
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Analog, appology accepted, like I said I do have a lot of respect for you, we may not always agree but you are pretty level headed and can keep things from getting to heated.

It's just I truly don't understand why questions I ask get ignored while others continue to rant and pick apart everything I say (even if proof is provided) yet provide no proof themselves.

Plus, everyone refuses to answer how they would like it if someone did this to their event. It's like you are saying forget the fact that Stonewall PAID and was LIABLE for everything and had politely aske that PP respect their wishes, as the cause was to solely promote acceptance and education of homosexual lifestyle.

PP's totally ignored them, totally knew their showing would lead to a scene and instead of having the cause that Stonewall worked hard and paid a lot of money to promote, a whole different cause was highlighted and now, Stonewall is being called the badguy here for defending their rights.

Perhaps, I am too close to this. (I am not gay, my homophobic nature shows) I have very close friends affected by this and it truly has hurt community relations in Cols.

Like I said I am heated about this because I provide facts (Peetster your were right about the nuisance I posted the wrong link and appologize.)

Here is the Code and link I meant to post.

2317.12 Disturbing a lawful meeting.
(A) No person, with purpose to prevent or disrupt a lawful meeting, procession, or gathering, shall do either of the following:
(1) Do any act which obstructs or interferes with the due conduct of such meeting, procession, or gathering;
(2) Make any utterance, gesture, or display which outrages the sensibilities of the group.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of disturbing a lawful meeting, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. (ORC 2917.12; Ord. 2535-94.)

#2 is the one that is the ticket.

Link: http://www.ordlink.com/codes/columbus/index.htm

I just don't understand how infringing on the rights of Stonewall is OK, yet taking away guns and trying to keep the focus on the issue paid Stonewall paid for is wrong and making victims out of people who chose to go for the purpose of disrupting and creating problems.

I understand the gun issue and if PP wants to hold a parade or event let them pay for their own event. I just don't see how their disrupting and intrusive behaviors are ok, when if it had happened to the PP's, you all would be charged about how people unwantingly disrupted the PP's legal event.

There are 2 sides and the PP side in this was wrong. That is not to say PP is wrong in their beliefs, they were wrong for violating the rights of others, and taking advantage of other people's expenses to promote themselves. It's that simple.

(Again I will research, but believe it is illegal in Ohio to have weapons at a public demonstration, block party, parade etc.) I will admit if I am wrong, and will post the law if I find it online or will post how to reference it if I can't post the law itself.
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