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Old 07-04-2004, 02:23 AM   #58 (permalink)
analog
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I feel like i'm taking crazy pills.

I didn't say anyone - especially not anyone in particular - was ignorant.

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Originally posted by analog
I didn't say, "you're ignorant". I said "ignorance of the law...". Saying "ignorance of ______" simply means not knowing about it. I was also not speaking to anyone in particular, especially since i said, "for some people". "Some people" makes it plural, as in more than one, so it was not directed at anyone.
btw- it IS a rule that if you're going to directly quote something, don't just link to it, but copy and paste into the post. Some people don't like blindly clicking links...

After sifting through links that didn't actually point to anything but the index, and finding all the info myself, I find nothing that says at all what you claim it does.

From your "block parties" section:

923.01 Definitions.
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(C) “Parade” shall have the same definition as set forth in Section 2111.01 of the Columbus City Codes, 1959, as amended. (Ord. 524-88.)
923.02 Parades.
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Parades are governed by Chapter 2111. Except where expressly stated in this chapter, the provisions of Chapter 2111 shall control over the provisions of Chapter 923. Parades shall not be required to obtain a block party permit. However, block parties which include a parade will be required to obtain both a block party permit and a parade permit. (Ord. 524-88.)
Note the highlight, i'll come back to it.

923.99 Violations--Penalties.
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Whoever violates Section 923.03(A) is guilty of conducting a block party without a permit, a minor misdemeanor.
Whoever violates Section 923.03(B) is guilty of conducting a block party without proper barricades, a minor misdemeanor. (Ord. 524-88.)
Note that there is no penalty for firearms, and in no way in any of the sections i've posted (or didn't post because they were about block parties) does it even reference firearms.

Now, back to...
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Except where expressly stated in this chapter, the provisions of Chapter 2111 shall control over the provisions of Chapter 923.
No problem. We'll check out Chapter 2111.

Chapter 2111 PARADES, PROCESSIONS AND OTHER MOVING ASSEMBLAGES The caps is on the site.

Forgoing the others because they aren't worth reposting, but i'll link to them in a moment, i'll put up the

2111.05 Standards for issuance of permit.
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The Director of Public Safety shall issue a parade permit as provided for hereunder when, from the consideration of the application and from other information as may otherwise be obtained, it appears that:
(a) The conduct of the parade will not substantially interrupt the safe and orderly movement of other pedestrian or vehicular traffic in or contiguous to the route or location of the parade.
(b) The concentration of persons, animals and/or vehicles at the parade will not interfere unduly with proper fire and police protection of or ambulance service to areas contiguous to the assembly area or other areas of the City.
(c) The conduct of the parade will not result in noise at a level inappropriate to the area surrounding the parade.
(d) The applicant has secured the police officers required under Section 2111.04 and 2111.041 of this chapter and has prepaid the expenses therefor.
(e) The parade is not to be held for the primary purpose of advertising any product, goods, or event which is primarily for private profit and the parade itself is not primarily for profit provided, however, the prohibition against advertising any product, good or event shall not apply to signs identifying organizations or sponsors furnishing or sponsoring exhibits or structures used in the conduct of the parade.
(f) Such parade will not interfere with previously scheduled activities or with scheduled maintenance or repair work to be carried out on the streets or thoroughfares to be used. (Ord. 2598-88.)
Nope. No mention of firearms or anything even related to them.

You can check out these others if you feel the need, they are formality and also have no mention of anything firearm-related:

Application for permit
Traffic Control
Division of fire personnel - This has to do with staffing appropriate fire department response, should it be needed.
Notice of rejection of application for permit
Appeal procedure
Nonwaiverability
Penalty

I used your links, I went to where you sent me. There is nothing that even remotely mentions guns. I also searched the site using it's search function and found no correlation of "gun", "firearm", or even "weapon" and "parade" or "block party", which you also mentioned.

Maybe i'm missing something? If I am wrong, please remove my ignorance of this matter.

EDIT: NOTE- Just for the purpose of chronology, I started writing my post way before peetster responded in here, that is why mine is after his... it took THAT LONG to compile all of this.

Last edited by analog; 07-04-2004 at 02:33 AM..
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