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pan6467 · 07-04-2004, 01:28 AM

So I am ignorant (coming from a mod I highly respected) for making legitimate arguments. You can argue my opinion but there is no need to get personal or call names. I have not done that to anyone here. I have done nothing but argue my side and provide facts substantiating (as linked to the City of Columbus City Codes) what I say, so as not to have people argue that I do not know what I am talking about.

Where is the proof from those calling me ignorant or avoiding the facts or twisting events and trying to say the PP's were within their rights (when I have shown through links they weren't).

Where are the answers to the questions I asked? As I have answered with facts every question and rebuttal directed at me?

You want to debate fine, you want to just say your side is right and fuck the facts, the city codes (laws) and anyone who disagrees with you, then just tell me that is what you want.

I was under the impression this was a forum of debate and of presenting facts to back up what one says, which is what I did. I guess I was wrong in my assumption, you all would rather call names, ignore facts and questions to have what you want. Fuck what the rules are or who paid for it or who was truly hurt by all this.

NOT 1 PERSON ANSWERED MY MAIN QUESTION? And yet I answered showed links to proof of everything I stated and am still told that PP's had every right to have guns, when the proof shows differently.

I am ignorant because I had friends there that feel the PP's stole their hard work.

I would just like one of these defenders of the PP to say if they had a parade or rally, and did ALL the work, paid ALL the bills, were LIABLE for everything that happened and asked a certain group not to come.

Yet that group came.

Turned the rally into something totally different and PAID for nothing, were liable for nothing and created problems, that YOU would not feel used and would not be pissed.

It is theft of services plain and simple. Stonewall paid for the area to be closed, paid for the extra police protection and trash cleanup and so on for only one purpose to promote education and acceptance of gay rights NOT promote or affiliate themselves with guns.

It is amazing how if this had happened to a gun enthusiast crowd and some splinter group came out and created problems the same people arguing for the PP's would be all pissy.

07-04-2004, 01:28 AM	#54 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	So I am ignorant (coming from a mod I highly respected) for making legitimate arguments. You can argue my opinion but there is no need to get personal or call names. I have not done that to anyone here. I have done nothing but argue my side and provide facts substantiating (as linked to the City of Columbus City Codes) what I say, so as not to have people argue that I do not know what I am talking about. Where is the proof from those calling me ignorant or avoiding the facts or twisting events and trying to say the PP's were within their rights (when I have shown through links they weren't). Where are the answers to the questions I asked? As I have answered with facts every question and rebuttal directed at me? You want to debate fine, you want to just say your side is right and fuck the facts, the city codes (laws) and anyone who disagrees with you, then just tell me that is what you want. I was under the impression this was a forum of debate and of presenting facts to back up what one says, which is what I did. I guess I was wrong in my assumption, you all would rather call names, ignore facts and questions to have what you want. Fuck what the rules are or who paid for it or who was truly hurt by all this. NOT 1 PERSON ANSWERED MY MAIN QUESTION? And yet I answered showed links to proof of everything I stated and am still told that PP's had every right to have guns, when the proof shows differently. I am ignorant because I had friends there that feel the PP's stole their hard work. I would just like one of these defenders of the PP to say if they had a parade or rally, and did ALL the work, paid ALL the bills, were LIABLE for everything that happened and asked a certain group not to come. Yet that group came. Turned the rally into something totally different and PAID for nothing, were liable for nothing and created problems, that YOU would not feel used and would not be pissed. It is theft of services plain and simple. Stonewall paid for the area to be closed, paid for the extra police protection and trash cleanup and so on for only one purpose to promote education and acceptance of gay rights NOT promote or affiliate themselves with guns. It is amazing how if this had happened to a gun enthusiast crowd and some splinter group came out and created problems the same people arguing for the PP's would be all pissy. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"