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Old 06-30-2004, 02:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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well, people knit big parts of themselves across thier understandings of the world and how that world functions....they are invested both in the fact of their frame of reference and in the results the frame generates, so it isnt really surprising that political arguments often get heated. i like to think that i can participate in political debates like they were a chess game, but it obviously breaks down on occaision.

as for the idea of secession, the militia movement--which i used to track as a side interest--- (in its various parts) is often not far from that, but in a reverse kind of way--they often argue(d?) that the "real" america has been invaded by some phantom outside force (the u.n., the zionists--all interchangable, all derivatives at one level or another from such antisemitic "classics" as the "protocols of the elders of zion") and often dream (maybe plan, maybe train for) some kind of right revolution that will return the states to the white ultraright chrisitan types who in their minds are the "Real Americans".......
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