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Originally posted by pan6467
(As a side note, I truly believe what destroyed Clinton was the fact he was too CENTRIST, and refused to bend. Both sides saw that as a threat. So the GOP could hound him and the Dems. did little to take the heat off.)
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While this may be true of the right (since he successfully co-opted plenty of their planks), I don't believe it's true of the left. Clinton was an annoyance to the established Democratic power structure. Clinton forced his way through the process and did it with his own political machine. It (and he) wasn't beholden to the DNC to give him life and they hated that. Look at the speech Clinton gave at the National Convention the election before he ran. There was little to no support for him and plenty of comments afterwards of "who does he think he is"? "He's just the governor of Arkansas and he'll never amount to anything." Four years later he bulled his way through the nominating process and they were forced to accept him. I think part of it was because the Dems didn't honestly think they could unseat the first Bush so they figured they'd offer Clinton up to be the sacrifice so they could focus on winning the next election. Of course, they didn't count on Clinton's charm and charisma. He resonated with voters and that made almost everything he did forgiveable.
As far as the rest of this thread, I am still enjoying it. Keep it up all. It's fun to see people defending Moore's stretching of the truth or "his versions" of the truth being trumpeted by some of the same people who scream about how GWB "lied" about this or that. The same, of course, can be said for those who say GWB told the truth when it came to WMDs yet say Moore is lying throughout his movie. It's quite illuminating.