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Old 06-24-2004, 12:56 PM   #58 (permalink)
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1) It was no history 101 class, Arab history is my major. I'm sorry if you blind yourself to the possible true causes to what is happening without actually researching and talking to leading Arab professors, but that is what you are doing. How many times have you actually TALKED to an Arab, let alone asked a leading member his thoughts and opinions with an open mind? My bet is on never.

2) Your point about America supporting the Saudi government is almost valid. But the problem is you point to no actual solution other than to point fingers at the "right", a term you used many many times. So you want us to invade Saudi Arabia and create a democracy now? Like it or not the Saudi government is fourth in stability in the region, lead only by Egypt, Kuwait, and Israel. Being holy land there is absolutely no way to intervene in Arabia, be it economically, politically, or militarially.

3) I'm no Israel supporter myself, but your point on the Palestinians is invalid. Their leader is a terrorist, and has been for decades. He has refused decade after decade to compromise (both sides have fair enough), yet he still to this day while promising to end terrorist attacks pays money to the fallen "myrtrs." To blame anyone but themselves is plain gullability. The Palestinians are as mad with their own Arab countries as they are Israel... something often overlooked by pseudo-intellectuals. From the various Arab-Israeli wars to the Lebanese Civil war they were continually backstabbed by their own neighbors. But wait, we're the only evil ones there huh?

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advocating exclusively a "hard line" against the phantoms you call "terrorists"--the mirror image of the conditions the political line you argue for---the expression of the consequences of that line--- might make you feel better, but does really nothing but insure that the problems you complain about wil not but continue, will multiply, will in short get worse.
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History has proven that taking a soft line only makes the terrorists more daring. Clinton took a soft stance... guess during who's administration the WTC bombings were planned? I'll give you a hint it took years of planning and time to plant the sleeper cells inside the US.

Will the new hard lined stance lead to more terrorists? Yes.
Will the new policy of going after the countries and personel that support the training of these individuals lessen the threat these new terrorists pose? absolutely

Sorry if you dont realize this but we're in a war. They've been in a declared war with us since the '60s, we've just been ignoring them. Now that we woke up we cut their supplies, cut their ability to train, cut their ability to communicate effectively. So now the best they can muster for the time being is car bombs.

The only reason I turned into a "patronizing" mode is because it is clear that you never took any research into the middle east other than what you saw on TV and what you read on moveon.org or some other left-leaning apeasment site.
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