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Originally posted by brianna
no one is asking people not to say anything -- the issue is whether or not the government can endorse a religion by making it part of a nationally recognized pledge.
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No you are telling people they can't say "under God" by taking it out or by forcing schools to not say the pledge.
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Originally posted by nanofever
Now lets get this track back to the topic, the ruling of the SCOTUS on the Pledge.
On that note, will the people saying the "under god" phrase is ambigious or could have any meaning please read my above post on the history of the phrase "under god. The phrase CLEARLY means a Abrahamic god which is endorsing a religion above others and thus fails the Lemon test. Failing the Lemon test equals being unconstitutional
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Just because something may have a history representing The Judeo-Christian God does not mean it still has to. When added to the pledge that was the God of the masses here. Today, people would like to have us believe otherwise, but with the vastness of different religions and religious practices GOD now means whatever that person places the value on it to be.
People (on both sides) can argue this till they are blue in the face with me, but GOD is just a word that only has the meaning the individual puts on it.
There's that comedy bit forget who did it, where he says, "instead of calling shoes, shoes I have chosen to call them feet holders. Shoe to me now means tv remote control. I like calling it shoe better, because it is easier and I say that more than I say foot holders. So my tv remote control is now my shoe and my shoes are now entitled my foot holders."
Values on words people place different values on different words. The word GOD is no different.
Again, I ask why are people so uncomfortable or trying to find so many reasons to get out of saying a word, even to the point that these people are trying to get others who have placed value on the word to not be allowed to say it in government and public places?
Why are these people so adamant about destroying our history and culture to reflect ONLY WHAT THEY WANT SEEN?