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John Henry · 06-13-2004, 01:22 AM

The significant support for the UK Independence Party is one which has been of great interest (if not of particular surprise) to me. Admittedly, my understanding of the issues surrounding our participation in the EU is fairly limited, but it seems to me that we have a greater chance of independence in Europe than we do out of it.

Europe is essentially democratic. By being part of Europe, we would have as much say as every one else. Just as by voting in general elections, you are not being ruled by the rest of the country, but simply participating in a national democratic system.

However, as things stand, we are unofficially politically and economically linked with the US. Since these links are unofficial and the US is the more powerful country, they have far more say over us than we do over them. We are effectively their subjects. A truly unified Europe would actually be more powerful than the US and consequently the most powerful 'state' in the world. Surely being an active part of it would lend us more independence than simply floating around on our own, taking orders from a foreign state.

btw, to all the other Europeans on this thread, I wasn't meaning to exclude you by saying 'calling all brits, it's just that on the poll, you are only allowed 10 options, which wasn't even enough to fit all the british parties in, so I figured it only really applied to Britain. Feel free to vote if an equivalent to your party is listed up there.

06-13-2004, 01:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
John Henry Addict Location: Grey Britain	The significant support for the UK Independence Party is one which has been of great interest (if not of particular surprise) to me. Admittedly, my understanding of the issues surrounding our participation in the EU is fairly limited, but it seems to me that we have a greater chance of independence in Europe than we do out of it. Europe is essentially democratic. By being part of Europe, we would have as much say as every one else. Just as by voting in general elections, you are not being ruled by the rest of the country, but simply participating in a national democratic system. However, as things stand, we are unofficially politically and economically linked with the US. Since these links are unofficial and the US is the more powerful country, they have far more say over us than we do over them. We are effectively their subjects. A truly unified Europe would actually be more powerful than the US and consequently the most powerful 'state' in the world. Surely being an active part of it would lend us more independence than simply floating around on our own, taking orders from a foreign state. btw, to all the other Europeans on this thread, I wasn't meaning to exclude you by saying 'calling all brits, it's just that on the poll, you are only allowed 10 options, which wasn't even enough to fit all the british parties in, so I figured it only really applied to Britain. Feel free to vote if an equivalent to your party is listed up there. __________________ "No one was behaving from very Buddhist motives. Then, thought Pigsy, he was hardly a Buddha, nor was he a monkey. Presently, he was a pig spirit changed into a little girl pretending to be a little boy to be offered to a water monster. It was all very simple to a pig spirit."