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hannukah harry · 06-11-2004, 01:35 PM

jasonstoneblade - if the first post had been posted like your last one, maybe this thread would have gone differently. but the opening post came off as an angry rant against all parents. that just saying "because i said so" makes one a bad, mean, horrible parent, the basic gist (jist?) of the post seems to be that parents should give kids whatever they want, the kids should not have to work, and all rules should be democratically come to so that a child can have fairness. what is fairness? to a 14, 17, and 25 year old that will be different for each of them. in your last post, you give us an example of a 17 year old with a 10pm cerfew. now, while i believe the parent doesn't need to give an explanation, i also think that it most likely won't change the kids opinion anyways. you see, 17 year olds are often thoughtless and self centered. i know i was, and so were manyof my friends. sometimes explaining a rule will do nothing but cause a fight because the child doesn't want to listen to his/her parents authority.

you (jason) may have had a rough upbringing and felt you had nothing to lose when you disobeyed your mom (you said it was shithole and insinuated your mom was an alcoholic) and had a good outcome. you may have at 16/17 been mature enough. not every kid is, many aren't. and if you were working and contributing money and getting no say, well, if you're financially contributing, it doesn't matter the age, i think you should have a bit more of a voice. but most kids don't.

and finally, you said "Wow you people say have an open mind and that you are mature and adult...." i don't remember anyone claiming to have an open mind, and not only that, having an open mind is not accepting all ideas, its considering all ideas and then discounting those that you feel are wrong. i think that's waht's gone on here....

oh, and if any thing i've posted has been taken as an insult, sorry. no insults intended, but i don't feel the need to coddle people, and am often blunt. if that comes off as an insult, oh well.

edit: oops... 3 posts sincei started writing... havne't read them yet. and got rid some stuff already said.

06-11-2004, 01:35 PM	#36 (permalink)
hannukah harry Junkie	jasonstoneblade - if the first post had been posted like your last one, maybe this thread would have gone differently. but the opening post came off as an angry rant against all parents. that just saying "because i said so" makes one a bad, mean, horrible parent, the basic gist (jist?) of the post seems to be that parents should give kids whatever they want, the kids should not have to work, and all rules should be democratically come to so that a child can have fairness. what is fairness? to a 14, 17, and 25 year old that will be different for each of them. in your last post, you give us an example of a 17 year old with a 10pm cerfew. now, while i believe the parent doesn't need to give an explanation, i also think that it most likely won't change the kids opinion anyways. you see, 17 year olds are often thoughtless and self centered. i know i was, and so were manyof my friends. sometimes explaining a rule will do nothing but cause a fight because the child doesn't want to listen to his/her parents authority. you (jason) may have had a rough upbringing and felt you had nothing to lose when you disobeyed your mom (you said it was shithole and insinuated your mom was an alcoholic) and had a good outcome. you may have at 16/17 been mature enough. not every kid is, many aren't. and if you were working and contributing money and getting no say, well, if you're financially contributing, it doesn't matter the age, i think you should have a bit more of a voice. but most kids don't. and finally, you said "Wow you people say have an open mind and that you are mature and adult...." i don't remember anyone claiming to have an open mind, and not only that, having an open mind is not accepting all ideas, its considering all ideas and then discounting those that you feel are wrong. i think that's waht's gone on here.... oh, and if any thing i've posted has been taken as an insult, sorry. no insults intended, but i don't feel the need to coddle people, and am often blunt. if that comes off as an insult, oh well. edit: oops... 3 posts sincei started writing... havne't read them yet. and got rid some stuff already said. __________________ shabbat shalom, mother fucker! - the hebrew hammer Last edited by hannukah harry; 06-11-2004 at 01:42 PM..