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pig · 06-08-2004, 06:31 PM

Interesting debate going on here, and I would say that most of my thoughts have been nicely summed up by the filterton et al crowd. A couple of things to add which I haven't seen yet.

1. The whole issue of children being reared by a homosexual couple versus straight couple is, as far as I understand it, complete strawman argumentation. It would seem to make the assumption that all straight households are safe havens of love and understanding, and all gay households are hotspots of sin and debauchery. For myself, I would far rather a child grow up in a stable and loving home, with financial means to see to the child's well being and education, regardless of sexual orientation of the parents. If this means a stable homosexual home versus a less stable heterosexual home, then so be it.

2. I've seen a lot of mentions of beastiality earlier on this thread, and just to check myself, isn't there a distinction between consenting homosapiens and non-consenting other mammals that we can draw here?

3. In discussions regarding the question of what is better for a stable society, I've frequently encountered the notion that heterosexual homes are somehow inherently better for society. Conseding that I have no evidence to back up my next statement, but prefacing it by saying that if we're going to play mind games, then fine - let's play mind games - allow me to ask the following.

Is it possible that in times of underpopulation / struggle for survival in a new area / exploration of new frontiers, that heterosexuality would be preferred because it would result in more workers and a higher population to settle the underpopulated area? Or that, contrarily, in times of excess / overpopulation / relative geographic stability, that homosexuality might become more popular, as a natural mechanism to curb population levels? Shortly put, I personally believe that the stigma of "unnatural" applied to homosexuality is quite incorrect, and that homosexuality is as natural as can be, as right as rain...

06-08-2004, 06:31 PM	#110 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	Interesting debate going on here, and I would say that most of my thoughts have been nicely summed up by the filterton et al crowd. A couple of things to add which I haven't seen yet. 1. The whole issue of children being reared by a homosexual couple versus straight couple is, as far as I understand it, complete strawman argumentation. It would seem to make the assumption that all straight households are safe havens of love and understanding, and all gay households are hotspots of sin and debauchery. For myself, I would far rather a child grow up in a stable and loving home, with financial means to see to the child's well being and education, regardless of sexual orientation of the parents. If this means a stable homosexual home versus a less stable heterosexual home, then so be it. 2. I've seen a lot of mentions of beastiality earlier on this thread, and just to check myself, isn't there a distinction between consenting homosapiens and non-consenting other mammals that we can draw here? 3. In discussions regarding the question of what is better for a stable society, I've frequently encountered the notion that heterosexual homes are somehow inherently better for society. Conseding that I have no evidence to back up my next statement, but prefacing it by saying that if we're going to play mind games, then fine - let's play mind games - allow me to ask the following. Is it possible that in times of underpopulation / struggle for survival in a new area / exploration of new frontiers, that heterosexuality would be preferred because it would result in more workers and a higher population to settle the underpopulated area? Or that, contrarily, in times of excess / overpopulation / relative geographic stability, that homosexuality might become more popular, as a natural mechanism to curb population levels? Shortly put, I personally believe that the stigma of "unnatural" applied to homosexuality is quite incorrect, and that homosexuality is as natural as can be, as right as rain... __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style