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Paq · 06-08-2004, 12:02 PM

bravo, Kutulu, servers everywhere thank you.

most places i have been expect 3% tipshare to hostesses, bussers, bartender...

and yeah, 10% of sales is minimum now, even though a lot of people take home less than 10% after a shitty tipper and 3% tipshare...

Also, it's easier to recover from a bad tipper in some places, like "turn and burn' atmospheres where you'll have 20 tables a night total. 20 tables leaving roughly $5 each or 18 tables leave $5 and 1 no tipper and one leaving a good bit extra...

but say, a nice place where a server will only have 5 tables, it's almost impossible to havea decent night with one shitty tipper. Say...last night, i had 4 tables total for a closing shift, first one left $20 tip, second left $10, 3rd left 8, 4th left $9. so i left with $40 after tipshare and 4 hrs work, slow night but not bad for a monday. my friend had 4 tables and $100 in sales more than me, but walked with $30 bc one of his tables left 56 cents on a $150 tab, even though there was absolutely no complaint, he just picked up the change and i think he expected someone else to put the tip down and didn't check. careless or malicious, we don't know, but my friend was out $4.50 in tipshare for that table and a few dollars in taxes, so he paid to do his own job...aggravating and ruined his night and there simply weren't enough tables to recover...

and don't forget, there are a TON of things servers have to do that they aren't paid for at all. Opening is 30 minutes of running your butt off getting things ready, folding napkins, wrapping silverware, making tea, setting up stations, cleaning, polishing, washing dishes from the night before, sweeping, setting up tables, checking salt/pepper, filling sugar, arranging chairs, putting in bread, setting up expo stations, wiping trays, cleaning trays. Then there is the 'sidework' you do before you go, cleaning sections, wrapping more silverware, washing dishes (yes, some servers wash dishes), make salads and desserts during the shift,(some do that too), wrapping food, wrapping togo orders, running food, cleaning up, helping other servers, guests, dealing with that one guest who is driving you insane by drinking a coke every 28 seconds,refilling drinks, etc...

serving isn't exactly a job where you show up, take orders, run food, and leave...most of the 'work' servers do is completely unpaid.

but all in all, kutulu said it best..

06-08-2004, 12:02 PM	#62 (permalink)
Paq Junkie Location: South Carolina	bravo, Kutulu, servers everywhere thank you. most places i have been expect 3% tipshare to hostesses, bussers, bartender... and yeah, 10% of sales is minimum now, even though a lot of people take home less than 10% after a shitty tipper and 3% tipshare... Also, it's easier to recover from a bad tipper in some places, like "turn and burn' atmospheres where you'll have 20 tables a night total. 20 tables leaving roughly $5 each or 18 tables leave $5 and 1 no tipper and one leaving a good bit extra... but say, a nice place where a server will only have 5 tables, it's almost impossible to havea decent night with one shitty tipper. Say...last night, i had 4 tables total for a closing shift, first one left $20 tip, second left $10, 3rd left 8, 4th left $9. so i left with $40 after tipshare and 4 hrs work, slow night but not bad for a monday. my friend had 4 tables and $100 in sales more than me, but walked with $30 bc one of his tables left 56 cents on a $150 tab, even though there was absolutely no complaint, he just picked up the change and i think he expected someone else to put the tip down and didn't check. careless or malicious, we don't know, but my friend was out $4.50 in tipshare for that table and a few dollars in taxes, so he paid to do his own job...aggravating and ruined his night and there simply weren't enough tables to recover... and don't forget, there are a TON of things servers have to do that they aren't paid for at all. Opening is 30 minutes of running your butt off getting things ready, folding napkins, wrapping silverware, making tea, setting up stations, cleaning, polishing, washing dishes from the night before, sweeping, setting up tables, checking salt/pepper, filling sugar, arranging chairs, putting in bread, setting up expo stations, wiping trays, cleaning trays. Then there is the 'sidework' you do before you go, cleaning sections, wrapping more silverware, washing dishes (yes, some servers wash dishes), make salads and desserts during the shift,(some do that too), wrapping food, wrapping togo orders, running food, cleaning up, helping other servers, guests, dealing with that one guest who is driving you insane by drinking a coke every 28 seconds,refilling drinks, etc... serving isn't exactly a job where you show up, take orders, run food, and leave...most of the 'work' servers do is completely unpaid. but all in all, kutulu said it best.. __________________ Live. Chris Last edited by Paq; 06-08-2004 at 12:09 PM..