All the responses by cheap people here are really frustrating me. I spent 7 years delivering pizza for cheapskates that didn't tip. My wife has been a server for 6 years. It's good money because most people are kind enough to appreciate the job you do and tip accordingly but assholes who don't tip can ruin your day.
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Originally posted by yankeefatboy
As for the other complaints re tipping, President Reagan made sure of the continued practice by requiring restaurants to declare 8% of sales to be taxed; hence all tipped employees must declare their tips as income or get allocated a certain amount by their employers.
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This shows that by NOT tipping, the server isn't just receiving no payment, but actually losing money because he's being taxed on money that was never received. Additionally, most restaurants have food runners, bartenders, and busers. All of them get money from the server. In many places, the server has to pay 3-5% of their sales to them as a group. Consider this:
Four people eat; the check comes to $50. No tip is left.
Server has to claim 8% of that, govt takes 1/3 of the 8%. Total cost to the server: $1.33
Buser/food runner/bartender's take, 5%: $2.50
Server's net income from that table of cheapskates: -$3.66
Server's hourly wage: $2.19
Average length of meal: ~ 1hour
# tables per hour: ~ 3
The server spends a net 20 minutes with you so he gets $0.73 in hourly wages from your table but wait, it gets better. The jackass who doesn't tip costs the server $3.66 so instead of actually making a living from that table, the table just
COST the server $2.93. What a way to make a living.
Because of this, people should ALWAYS give a bare minimum, regardless of the service. As I said before, they usually have to give around 5% of their sales to other people that work with them and they have to claim 8% as income whether or not they are tipped on it. Therefore, it's not even a tip unless you're exceeding 7.67% of the total bill. Otherwise you're not just giving them nothing, you're
taking money from them.
Nobody is forcing you to contribute to tipping but since it is an accepted practice that servers will get tips and therefore the employer can pay them meaningless wages it boils down to you
need to tip. How would you like it if your employer came to you and said, "Look man, I don't want to pay you for the last hour you just spent busting your ass so I'm not going to"
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Originally posted by Stompy
My friends and I always go to a certain restaurant for our lunch. We usually order the same thing and already know what we want as soon as we sit down. The bill usually comes back like $25-30 and the waiter/waitress was never at the table for more than a total of 30 seconds. You expect me to pay the waiter/waitress $3.75 - $4.50 just for taking my order and brining my food? Hell, I'll do that myself. Just show me where to place the order! Giving a tip for simply participating in my experience is a bit odd, IMO.
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There's a lot more than just taking the order and bringing you the food and the check. They have to know everything on the menu, what the sides are, what can or can't be substituted, and make sure it's all correct. Where does the blame fall when your burger has the mayo on it that the customer didn't want on it? The server. Can they reasonably know that it had mayo on it without picking through the entree? No, but the blame still falls on them.
People come into the establishment looking to make people's day shitty also. They know that they can be as dickish as they want and still get their ass kissed. The server has too put up with all that bullshit too.
Lastly, they have too put up with asshole managers who are always on their asses about how their tables aren't spending enough money. At some places, they have to do "punishment" work if the guests don't average enough drinks/appetizers/etc.
All in all, you know how the place works. You are served and are therefore expected to tip. It's not some bonus to the server, it's their life you're fucking with if you don't tip. Nobody is forcing you to eat at places that have tipped employees. You can easily eat at McDonalds if you wish to avoid tipping.
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At most restaurants, the people who run the take out orders are also relying on tips (not as much as servers, but they still do) so if you order take out and don't tip, you're still screwing them over.
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Originally posted by Paq
http://www.tipthepizzaguy.com/
if you're a frequent guest at a restaurant or caller to a pizza place, they remember...beeeelieve me, they remember...
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Damn right we remember, it's not just the no-tippers, but the shitty $1.00-$1.50 tippers also. It takes two times to get a good driver to know that the customer is a cheapass. From then on they are always the last order made, delievered, etc. We make sure that it isn't made as well and slices aren't cut as evenly. Basically I'd do anything I could get away with aside from actually fucking with the food. If they odered wings, I'd make sure that the wing sauce got all over the inside of the bag so that it makes a big mess when they open it up. If they ordered cans of soda, I'd shake them up a little. Anything that doesn't touch the food is fair game. Deliever every order on the run before they get theirs.
On the other hand, the good tippers get their food as hot and fast as we can safely get it too them.