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Originally posted by tiberry
Bad=Something or someone that exists outside our personal (subjective) boundaries of things that are "good". As :::OshnSoul::: said - its all relative to the observer.
NOTHING, and I do mean NOTHING is inherently "bad"...how could it be? Who is the single, impartial, objective judge as to what's "good" and "bad"? God? That's opening a whole new thread just to address that issue! 
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No, that's not a whole new thread. I started this thread to address that issue. Pain to me seems have an inherant badness, and I wanted to know what makes it bad. Like you said, who is the judge? When I feel pain there is only that perception, me being conscious of the feeling, nothing more, but it being bad is something more than just a feeling. Where does the badness come from. If you don't think pain is bad then you are feeling something else. Consciousnesses don't differ. What we experience might.
Or if you want to do it this way. Let's assume the badness of pain is subjective. Who decided it would feel so horrible for you, and I'm not talking about why pain is bad, I'm talking about what makes the feeling bad. Are we making a choice to feel it as being bad, and it's just a neutral feeling to begin with? Also, let's just assume that everyone is feeling the same thing, just for the sake of conversation, because when I say pain I mean the feeling that I am feeling, and we might not all be feeling the same thing I admit. If I stab myself and feel like I'm having an orgasm, that's not pain, that's just the nervous system being screwed up.
Does anyone get me? If pain isn't just inherantly bad then each of us must be deciding that it is bad, and how do you decide the goodness or badness of a feeling? Doesn't it seem strange that feeling JUST ARE bad or good for you?