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Well I do not see how pain could ever be good. Some people "enjoy" pain, but I don't know the whole story on that. Do they perceive pain differently, or does that perception of pain cause some other feeling to arise which is good. I would assume that if you lit someone who enjoys pain on fire they would stop enjoying it real quick. There are instances where things that people think are evil are good for some people, but I'm talking about feelings because they seem like the special case where they are absolutely good or bad. That is why I am talking about them specifically, and not stealing or beating people.
Also, if true good or bad do not exist then why do the ideas exist, they must be coming from somewhere. Everyone knows what good and bad are because we are subjected to true good and bad everyday in the form of feelings.
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