edit: sorry for the length! sheesh! I quote too much
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bad30th.. I think you're assuming a lot for the ONE post in which I have said such a thing - and I did so only after the comparison was mentioned. Please dont blanket anything I do without doing research.
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My point was that it just seems like its always TL this and TL that.....
Couple examples:
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heh.. as a 04 TL owner, I must laugh at the proposed comparison of the Mazda 6. The 6 may be loaded, but with common amenities. The TL has much more power, a luxury-sport ride AND the features are far and away more luxurious than Mazda could think about.
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The TL is better.
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As long as Nissan/Infiniti keeps designing for womens tastes, I'll be happy with Honda/Acura leading the way with more masculine designs and technology.
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Honda is masculine and great.
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I dont get the deal with the RWD vs FWD.. you're not gonna be hitting turns at 80... the TL has a great LSD... and even my best friend, who is a big RWD fan, was raving about my car when I let him drive it.
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My car is great.
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Damn that Alaska pipeline. The 04 TL is still pretty rare around where I live despite it being a rather upscale area, but I remember seeing a few of them when I went to Long Beach.
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TLs are rare and great.
Dont take offense I'm actually just kinda kidding around with you
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Now I'm not speaking from my own opinion when I say things about the styling. It's been written in several reviews that the styling is masculine, sharp, with a conservative rear end. The lines are sharp, fast and sexy. I may *agree* with these observations, but they are not my own original thoughts. I make sure that when i say something, I've read something to back it up.
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But see now you're just......
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.....ranting about is the kinda bullshit that Car and Driver magazine publishes. Who do those idiots cater to? They treat every single review as if the car is supposed to stack up to a Ferrari.
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The number of male TL owners VASTLY overshadows the number of female TL owners. This should tell you something.
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Says who? Are you stating this as fact because you see more guys driving them then girls?
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When I pull up to an American muscle car, I have a few things on my mind. One of them is 'trash' - now that's not to pre-emptively judge the driver of the car, but on average, the main kinds of people who I see driving camaros, mustangs or monte carlos are fat middle-aged women, men with mullets and mustaches, or obnoxious latinos. Sure, I see a few decent people in the cars, but I see more decent people in Ford Focuses.
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If you're thinking that the "fat middle-aged women, men with mullets and mustaches, or obnoxious latinos" are trash in their Camaro or Mustang, would they be different in a TL? You'd still think "Trash," but then "Nice car." (Or maybe "nice car," and then "trash" as I'm sure you'd notice the car before the driver
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But now if you're thinking "trash" about the actual car, well then that just shows your automotive ignorance. If its an old-and-busted 7-different-color pile of V6 trash, then ok. But if you're thinking that a V8 Camaro/Mustang in excellent condition is trash, then like I said....ignorance.
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Corvette? Middle-aged men who use it for looks.
Viper? Whitebread yuppie.
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I'd have a Corvette now if I had the means......but hey were not all porn stars.
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No, I am not inspired by a modern car whose only redeeming value is an oversized, inefficient engine. If 'masculine' to you is loud and obnoxious, please do not invite me out for a drink.
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Well Hal, first off I think you are forgetting about one little thing, which isnt surprising, since your amazing TL lacks it. Torque. "Oversized, ineffficient engines" make buket-loads of torque at very low rpm. And the inefficient part is pretty funny, since I get 20 mpg when I am driving like an idiot, and almost 30 on the highway. The LEV Honda S2000 barely gets that with half the cylinders.
As far as the loud comment, I dont think you are quite understanding what I'm saying, and the only way to really make you understand is to take you for a ride......which isnt exactly possible. So I'll just leave that alone.
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Classic cars are another matter. If you have a classic muscle car, you just might be the real deal. It's respectable to see an old car in good condition.
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I agree whole-heartedly.
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Yeah, you're right about not caring what other people think of your car. It's not a justification, it's an added bonus. I suppose if you're absolutely oblivious to what people think of you too, I repeat - don't invite me out for a drink.
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Well you see Hal, its not that I'm oblivious to what others think of me, its just that I dont really care. And that doesnt mean I'm an idiot or I have bad personal hygene (or whatever you were getting at there), but I'm just not that shallow.
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Hell, you're talking about the TL as if it CAN'T burn rubber, though. I can tell you that aside from the style of the car, I did show off all 6 gears to her too. She was impressed. I'm sure the 3-series I burned was too. 0-60 in 5.7 seconds is NOT slouching.
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Congratulations. You bought a fast car.
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So there you have it, it's not about being a one-trick pony. It's about doing a lot of things at once and doing everything competently. The TL excells at that.
As far as all the gadgets - nothing's broken yet! As long as you use them, they are worth it, and that I do.
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You've had the car how many miles? Come back when you're up at around 100k and let us know how all those gadgets are doing. Then again, you probably wont have the car past 50k, so you're probably fine.
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So here's my take. I wouldn't trade my TL for a car with twice the power, but no luxury. I wouldn't trade it for a car with twice the luxury, but no power. All the cars that offer more of both are more expensive, less reliable and are naturally less 'sporty'. Wave a Caddy CTS-V in front of my face and I'd still take a few days to think about it.
I've had my car for just over a month and it's absolutely perfect. Those who know me can appreciate this statement because I am perfectionist, tempermental and beyond picky.
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Then you purchased the perfect car
for you. I really am happy for you. But that doesnt mean its the perfect car,
period.
Again, dont get pissed off....my comments here arent meant to do that. Just having a discussion and giving you a little bit of a hard time.
To quote, "Hey, you're hittin' at my car, I can hit at yours
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