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Old 05-30-2004, 02:17 PM   #51 (permalink)
hannukah harry
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Originally posted by yatzr
i don't remember saying anything about iraq. I know that everyone considers the war on terror and the war on iraq to be the same, but I don't. To me the war on iraq and against saddam is a different thing. I know they didn't have much if anything to do with 9/11. I know it's bush's own agenda. I don't even really consider it part of the "war on terrorism". But when you say the entire war on terrorism has been a failure and only making things worse, all you're doing is forgetting about afghanistan. If you want to say that that was a failure too, then I think you are one of those eager to see the US fail.

to say that the war on terror is a failure, does not mean that you're eager for the US to fail. that's like saying "the yankee's are losing" when the score's 3-1 in the third inning must mean you want the yank's to lose. it doesn't, it's stating an observation. iraq so far has been a failure, and considering how much coverage iraq is getting over afghanistan, there's no wonder people may leave out/forget/not think to mention that afghanistan is in there.

i don't think that most liberals think of iraq as being part of the war on terror, other than that it has made it worse because it's making iraq a breeding ground for terrorist groups and increasing anti-american sentiments abroad.

finally, it seems to me that we may be failing in afghanistan too. i haven't heard any reports recently, but osama and the taliban head are still out there, opium fields are thriving, and i don't know if tehre's even a stable govt. in there at the moment. until there is and OBL's been caught, i'd say we're not meeting our objectives.

i do not want us to fail. but under the current administration, i believe we are. i love my country, but i hate the direction it has been going in under the leadership of Bush, and i do not think he's a good man or has much integrity. but that doesn't make me anti-american and it doesn't make me a "traitor."
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