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shakran · 05-28-2004, 08:26 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lebell
[B] No, obviously you don't.

A "few guys" with some AK47's would not be effective, but tens of thousands of gun owners running guerilla operations and taking over national armory depot's along with defecting soldiers would.

yup. You've been watching too many movies.

Where will you get these tens of thousands of gun owners? Sure, I don't deny that tens of thousands of people own guns, but I will argue that not all of them will participate in whatever movement you're fantasizing about, and of those that do, certainly not all of them will be trained.

Then, where do they get their supplies? An army needs ammo, fuel, food, and water for starters. Of course, assuming a full-scale rebellion as you are describing, the supply lines of these and other resources necessary for the survival of an army (in this case your citizen uprising) will quickly be cut - using airstrikes if necessary.

After that, where do they get trained? Remember that viet-nam was stupidly fought by the US. We'd take a hill, then wander off until the enemy showed up again, then take the hill again. We also insisted on using conventional military tactics on a non-conventional military. This won't happen if your supposed rebellion comes to pass. Your rebels will be going up against the best-trained, best-equipped fighting force the world has ever seen. They will not be able to stand up to the military. The ONLY way a successful rebellion can be fought is if the military revolts against the government - and then the issue of citizens having guns is rather moot isn't it?

05-28-2004, 08:26 PM	#45 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lebell [B] No, obviously you don't. A "few guys" with some AK47's would not be effective, but tens of thousands of gun owners running guerilla operations and taking over national armory depot's along with defecting soldiers would. yup. You've been watching too many movies. Where will you get these tens of thousands of gun owners? Sure, I don't deny that tens of thousands of people own guns, but I will argue that not all of them will participate in whatever movement you're fantasizing about, and of those that do, certainly not all of them will be trained. Then, where do they get their supplies? An army needs ammo, fuel, food, and water for starters. Of course, assuming a full-scale rebellion as you are describing, the supply lines of these and other resources necessary for the survival of an army (in this case your citizen uprising) will quickly be cut - using airstrikes if necessary. After that, where do they get trained? Remember that viet-nam was stupidly fought by the US. We'd take a hill, then wander off until the enemy showed up again, then take the hill again. We also insisted on using conventional military tactics on a non-conventional military. This won't happen if your supposed rebellion comes to pass. Your rebels will be going up against the best-trained, best-equipped fighting force the world has ever seen. They will not be able to stand up to the military. The ONLY way a successful rebellion can be fought is if the military revolts against the government - and then the issue of citizens having guns is rather moot isn't it? Last edited by shakran; 05-28-2004 at 08:28 PM..