View Single Post
Old 05-25-2004, 10:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
nanofever
Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe.
 
Location: UCSB
Quote:
Originally posted by Publius
It is topics like this that never cease to amaze me on so many levels. First of all, go read your constitution people. You will not find anywhere within the constitution where it specifically gives the Supreme Court to right of Judicial Review over any act of government, including Congress. This power was seized by a judicially active court under John Marshall in the case of Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137 (1803).
The Commerce Clause is what Congress uses to justify a vast majority of its legislation. The framers of the constitution did not intent for this to be the case, and more likley than not, they would be repulsed by this usage of the Commerce Clause. For better or worse, the strict constructionist view of the constitution is dead to the majority of the government.

Quote:
Since that time there has been much lively debate about judicial review, especially when it concerns acts of congress, and the pendulum has swung both ways on this one between active courts taking more power for themselves and Congress seeking to take back a power which it continues to maintain it ultimately holds. Congress does in fact hold ultimate power over the Courts because, if it so choose, it could dissolve all but the Supreme Court thereby insuring that the Court was too swamped with cases to play an active role.
Congress could try that but it would cost them their entire treasury of legitimacy. Legitimacy is what allows Congress and the SCOTUS to "get away" with actions that border on un-constitution and judicial activism, respectivly. When that idea is added to the near fact that anyone voting for that bill would lose their senate seat, the likelyhood of this happening is nil. If your wondering, the loss of the senate seat would come from outrage of the legal profession and the amazing wealth that they contribute to Senator's campaigns. Since the court clog would essentially destroy the legal field, you can bet that a LOT of money would be going to people who would resciend the legislation.

Quote:
However, I have to come down on the side of the courts on this one. If it were not for the active courts to challenge the combined power of the legislative and executive branches, there would be little in the way of insure personal liberties against an overly aggressive combined effort of the two branches. This should be evident from the vast body of cases that the Supreme Court has chosen to hear. Pick as case, any case, and you will see that the Court chooses its battles for a specific reason, most usually because it wishes to address a particular problem that is facing society at large. The Court was established to be a neutral party between the people and the government and, I would argue, for the most part it has been successful in this role. Even if you don’t agree with a particular decision of the Court (9th circus anyone?) you have to admit that the topics that the Court chooses to address are ones that need to be openly debated within society and sometimes the Court needs to act as the cartelist for getting this important debate started.

As for this particular bill, I find it rather asinine. If the Congress doesn’t like a particular ruling of the Court it has within its power the ability to rewrite the legislation such that it will meet judicial scrutiny. This is the very first thing that anyone learns when taking any basic constitutional law class. The ultimate power resides with we the people. [/B]
Have to agree with the last section of your post.
__________________
I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect.

Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum:
"Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt."
nanofever is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360