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Old 05-25-2004, 02:56 PM   #76 (permalink)
gondath
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I have a feeling filtherton wants to corner me into saying that I'm against gays, therefore that's why I'm against gay marriage. The two are actually mutually exclusive concepts. I've heard others who accept the lifestyle still oppose gay marriage. Arguing over a definition is a silly thing. At some point, we all have to agree on what a word means. Otherwise, no communication would be possible because everyone would be speaking their own invented language. Maybe this is the real problem today.

I agree with matthew330 that a natural (in the sense of a species carrying on its numbers and instilling some sense of gender) union of opposites sexes is the best environment for children. I don't see how people can argue that because polygamy has existed in some parts of the world at various times, then my definition of the word must be wrong and any arguments I might have had with it. However, if you accept the argument that every word is personally defined, then I can never be wrong about what any word means because I'll always be defining it based on my own criteria. That's a little extreme, but you can see my point.

Segregation isn't even remotely related to this issue. The two issues are so far apart it isn't even funny. What is funny is that even after all these years of desegregation, some recent studies show that races tend to stick to their own kind in group environments like school and prison. I smell another thread brewing for that one.

On my comment about separation of church and state, I'm saying that why do practically all people get married in a church, regardless of whether they are religious or not. The practice has become a standard. That's why I mentioned it. Marriage and religion are so closely related in this country that it's unbelievable. I mean, how many people don't get married by a priest of some kind? I don't see this argument as a game, but I would appreciate being called a bastard, instead of a robot. Don't take the cop out route of arguing that the time we live in has anything to do with an argument. I could show you many ways in which modern society is not any better than previous cultures. All I'm saying is that gays could be arguing for civil unions, instead of the word marriage. Thus they dodge the religious bullet somewhat in their quest for marital benefits or God knows what. It would be very hard to argue that religion and marriage are separate in this country.
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