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Old 05-23-2004, 08:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
pan6467
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In regard to this bill, we as a population are sleeping. Most of the people are so turned of by the hate and insanity of the partisan games and the talking heads, (who spew forth nothing but hatred towards those that disagree and treat those that disagree like they are ignorant), that they don't care anymore, feel they have no voice, or just flatly have resigned themselves to the loss of rights. So this could pass. Hopefully, we have enough truly honorable politicians that realize what this would do and laugh it out of Congress, bury it 1000 feet underground, erase any information that they ever considered the idea and move on.


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Originally posted by seretogis
This is to prevent "legislating from the bench" -- activist Judges essentially re-writing laws as they see fit. The judicial branch does not represent the will of the people and is not accountable to them in any way. This legislation, as well as attempts to break up the Ninth Circuit, is the legislative branch's way of trying to fix the system.

I think in the end the Supreme Court would have to rule that Congress overstepped their authority and unless the bill became an amendment. Congress then by the nature of the bill could feasibly overturn it and then we would have chaos. And either the Supreme Court would lose all power, or Congressmen voting to "overturn" the Supreme Court would be held in contempt. Either way it would change the Constitution in ways that nothing (short of an amendment) ever has.

Huh? We did what? When did you vote for any of the Supreme Court justices?

First, the 9th Circuit is not the final say on anything, last time I checked. There's the Court of Appeals and then there's the Supreme Court, so to say the 9th Circuit can pass judgements unchecked is more than just a little partisan and biased over what comes down. There's 10 other Circuits and I'm sure Libs can find a complaint just as substantial and fair over one of the others. But of course the Libs don't have a Limbaugh and other Clear Channel right winged talking heads blasting it every week. By the way who is trying to break up the 9th Circuit and how did you hear this information?

But instead of griping why don't you tell us what laws the 9th circuit changed or passed judgement on that have affected your rights and life in a negative way?

I guess it's easy to sit back act lbelieve you are better than the founders of this nation and pick and choose what you like in the Constitution. Yet, when someone else argues about a part of the Constitution you may like you'll scream "how dare you?" and tell them they must not believe in it.

Such hypocrasy. Love it when people claim one part of the Constitution is sooooo wrong yet the parts they like, well.... Much like gun control freaks arguing over the 2nd amendment yet demanding the 1st is the greatest thing.

The WHOLE Constitution is the law of the land. once you discard any part of it you destroy it. We have changed some things (called amendments) but over all it remains intact. Bush and every president before found ways to get things passed into law that may be iffy as to the power, but the truly bad ones eventually get overturned or repealed.

Secondly, I believe he meant we may need to check on the CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN that we vote for if they pass this bill.
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