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Old 05-16-2004, 08:41 PM   #79 (permalink)
Shades
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It would be a meeting of about five of my closest Klan buddies and Neocon-puking friends. Even if you would like hanging about with one of the above mentioned factions of white male society, there's a different stigma attached to the White Male societies, and it's not coincidental.
Yes, clearly when we white people congregate, only the inbred, conservative among us do. In fact, all predominantly white groups have always had that characteristic. Goodness, where did I get off thinking that white people weren't inherently bad, especially in large numbers? YEE-HAA!

I'm still trying to decide how painting every white group that way, especially one peopled by engineers (who, in my experience, tend to be well-educated enough to not be racist a-holes) wasn't a flat-out flame. In case it was not,

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are white males kids starting to wonder if their role models are hypocritical bastards?
Which, of course, presupposes that white kids will automatically choose only white people as role models, instead of minority athletes or media stars. Considering the dominance of hip hop on the airwaves, I'm thinking that maybe not every single white kid only looks up to other white people.

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I personally feel that it is becoming appropriate to more heavily consider economic situation and less heavily racial profile,
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but perhaps not completely eliminate race.
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many of the posters are decrying all recognition and differentiation on the basis of race
I'm only doing so in the interest of fairness. If I'm to believe that there is nothing good about being white, that white people have only been a plague on the Earth, and that showing even the slightest hint of even identifying as, let alone taking the slightest scintilla of pride in being white is a vicious slur upon every non-white person around me, even though I and all of the white people I personally know have never done a single thing to harm another person based in part or in whole on their skin color, then I submit that neither should any other race be allowed to do so. And if anything I claimed in that pervious (not entirely serious) sentence was false, then I submit that I would be allowed to organize a White Pride parade (we invented Tang, bitches!) and not be run out of town on a rail. But I would be. Seriously, please just give me one solitary example in your entire life when anything- an educator, a textbook, a TV show, a movie,- every once even intimated that being proud of being white was anything less than branding yourself as a racist.

And then tell me how perpetuating that attitude, combined with giving preferential treatment to non-whites on the basis of their skin color only, will someday eliminate racism in our society. The treatment is still separate, and it's still unequal. I strongly believe that the only way to do so is to make things truly fair- everyone gets the same shake. If people discriminate based on race or gender, throw the book at them hard, but until they do, don't treat them like criminals. Don't require that they hire a certain percentage of women- who says they weren't going to anyway, or that there are that many qualified women in that field in that geographical area that applied to that company? Racial quotas carry the underlying assumption that the company is run by racist turds that you can't turn your back on for one second.

Race-based initiatives in education do to the same thing. They say that the public school system is a machine built to advance the good ol' boys and hold the rest down. Even more insultingly, they say that, rather than try to fix public schools, they'll just slap a band-aid on at the end, when applying for college. At that time, your race will be taken into "consideration," meaning that, although you may have low academic and test scores, you could be admitted anyway. I don't see any other way to interpret that other than colleges just don't expect as much from minorities, which would really piss me off if I was a minority. I'm not, so I don't have the right to be.

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